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    Posted: 09/01/2009 at 11:13am
So ITTF employs people who not only are incompetent in video processing but also do not even look at the results of their experiments. If they spent at least 10 seconds looking at their own videos they would have immediately seen it was crap.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

 
Jim T:
"Wow, that's a big file. Thanks, Mark!"
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Is the big video file that you downloaded has good quality?  Can one see clearly when the ball is over the top of the table?
 
Thanks
 
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Yes, it is a pretty good quality. No problems with watching the ball. Must have been a different camera shooting this video.
It wasn't different camera, ittf needed to resize the resolution and then they lost the quality of the video.All this stuff with camera etc was screwed up and later they made it even badly by resizing...It concerns also audio...
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

 
Jim T:
"Wow, that's a big file. Thanks, Mark!"
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Is the big video file that you downloaded has good quality?  Can one see clearly when the ball is over the top of the table?
 
Thanks
 
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Yes, it is a pretty good quality. No problems with watching the ball. Must have been a different camera shooting this video.
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Don't forget that itTV maker has all the matches in HQ.
To promote Table Tennis ittv needs an account on YT its the most popular video site EVER^^
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Jim T:
"Wow, that's a big file. Thanks, Mark!"
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Is the big video file that you downloaded has good quality?  Can one see clearly when the ball is over the top of the table?
 
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Hong Kong Junior Open (ITTF site's itTV).
 
The camera keeps on moving making viewers dizzy.  Does anybody else also feel that itTV has not done a good on this either.


Yes, another bunch of amateurish video crewmen. The organizers probably hired the lowest bidder as usually... However, I doubt ITTF had anything to do with that.
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Hong Kong Junior Open (ITTF site's itTV).
 
The camera keeps on moving making viewers dizzy.  Does anybody else also feel that itTV has not done a good on this either.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

 
Youtube's "Jun Mizutani-Hao Shuai Men's Singles Final" is clear and I can see the ball.

Some other youtube's video, I can not see the ball when it is over the table top.

 
Different quality, how come?  I can not explain it.
Are youtube's videos taken by different people?



It could be that by the end of the tourney, video crew received a lot of complaints about the clips, and they finally fixed the angle, or the lighting etc - whatever was making the visibility so crappy.
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Jun Mizutani-Hao Shuai:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=21JFWSU9


Wow, that's a big file. Thanks, Mark!
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Jun Mizutani-Hao Shuai:
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Please, upload 2009 Korea Open video from SPORT+ (2.09/3.09/4.09 on SPORT+).
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Originally posted by O! Ju Qian O! Ju Qian wrote:

don't understand why you guys are comparing shuai with chen qi and how that makes him weak against lobs just cause his style is different.  hao shuai had all the time to smash those balls but he kept on driving them back.  I was hoping he would learn from his game against Maze, but man he is simply not thinking right.  
 
ud think the coaches would have got hao shuai training on how to win those lobbing points, lol
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don't understand why you guys are comparing shuai with chen qi and how that makes him weak against lobs just cause his style is different.  hao shuai had all the time to smash those balls but he kept on driving them back.  I was hoping he would learn from his game against Maze, but man he is simply not thinking right.  
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A lot happened between what was captured by the camera and the clips that we see.

Conversion/compression. How it's done makes a difference.
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Youtube's "Jun Mizutani-Hao Shuai Men's Singles Final" is clear and I can see the ball.

Some other youtube's video, I can not see the ball when it is over the table top.

 
Different quality, how come?  I can not explain it.
Are youtube's videos taken by different people?
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I think ittv video is sub-standard compared with the others.
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I had some problems with these two vids I uploaded.The sync was little bit off in both.I suppose that they had sh*tty cameras and even when I catched live feed the problem was still there.So don't be suprised that the screwed up the coverage when they needed to convert everything to small resolution.
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Don't know the relationship between ITTF and itTV.
 
Hope they are aware of the problems, and improve the next time around.
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I guess they had some lighting problems. Also the tables themselves seem to be a different hue compared to the tables at China Open - therefore you cannot even see the ball when it passes over the table.

Add to this bad quality sound and you can easily say this is one of the worst TT broadcasts of the last decade...
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Why ITTV's video is hard to see the ball while youtube's video can see the ball clearly?  (Same tournament - Korea Open).
 
ITTV is supposed to have more resources and more expertise in recording TT match videos.
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Originally posted by Takadigi Takadigi wrote:

Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

If he beat Dima (I believe in Mizu) he will destroy Shuai (I think that Dima is much harder player to win then Shuai).


Hao Shuai obviously did not read this memo or no one reminded him that he needed to get destroyed. So, Hao Shuai ended up winning 4-1.


Haha, good one. we need someone translate this to Hao Shuai so next time he will remember to get destroyed.
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Yes, the lost of the first game rattles HS and he could not recover from it. He is still young, maybe not mentally strong as yet. Give him some time to develop.
 
Congratulations to JunM. He deserved to be crowned the Champion in the Men Singles of the Korea Open.
 
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Originally posted by Takadigi Takadigi wrote:

Agreed. And one has to give Mizutani credit to have won the title in a pretty strong field. He was simply the best player in the tournament.

However, if you look at the matches that Hao Shuai and Wang Hao (the lone Chinese players in the mens section) played in the tournament, neither of them appeared convincing in any of their wins. Their games were not even close to the typically flawless display the Chinese are used to giving.
 
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finally! some transitions other than straight cutting, sowhysoserious, this is video has some great cutting!/editing! well done
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