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    Posted: 09/20/2009 at 9:18pm

A long-term test of Neo Hurricane 3

In this month, I have changed my forehand rubber from Haifu Blue Whale 2 to DHS Neo Hurricane 3. After a whole month practice, I�m deep impressed with this rubber, this is the best I even tried in this year.

 Although I got the Neo Hurricane 3 for many months, I didn�t reserve one for myself because the supply is extremely short but huge demand. I start my Neo Hurricane 3 in late August so that I have enough time to run-in the rubber before major competition. Yes, just like other chinese rubber, it takes time to run-in. It doesn�t mean it is not good when brand new, but it reach the best condition after run-in. I found that the run-in time is shorter than my expectation. After 3 practice day, it is ready!

 What�s the different? The topsheet is a bit shine, you can feel the ball goes into the sponge, the fast looping is powerful, the wonderful thing is that the ball drops after it pass over the net, the 2nd speed is amazing! This is the power of Hurricane 3! The curve made my the Neo Hurricane 3 is exceptional! For the speed, it is not as fast German / Japanese rubber, even a bit slower than the TG3, but the curve is abnormal!

 I would like to point out that, the rubber is really easy to control, it can make high looping and fast looping easily, even the ball already going down, the topsheet give you best feeling and make you confident to loop, a little move of my wrist can make a spiny returns, the ball goes exactly the point I want.

Neo Hurricane 3 is now my favorite forehand rubber, I may get some Provincial Neo Hurricane 3 in this week, I will share the photos and my review as soon as I can.

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August to September = Long Term?

I think I missed something in the translation.
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For testing rubbers it is long term.

Most poeple give a review of a rubber after only 2-3 tries with it but after about 1 month you can really tell if you enjoy or dislike a rubber.

I have been playing with H3 maybe 1 month and a bit now and i gotta say the same thing. I love the control, spin, and feeling of the rubber on my acoustic.
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Hmm. After a month? How many hours exactly or roughly?

Yes, it kind of made me a skeptic when seeing the packaging as it suggest me of factory tuning, probably effect wont last long.
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All rubbers should come sealed and I think within a couple of years they all will. They don't last forever exposed to air. If it's made people think they have factory tuning like the whales then that's a pity because they do not

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sounds like just what I am looking for
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This is the question I've been asking and nobody seem to know the exact answer.
Do the Neo series is factory tuned? if yes how long does (approximately) the effect lasts?
Anybody have the answer??? please ^^
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Thanks for the info ttrubberman. 

Where you using NEO DHS 3  41 degree, 2.2mm ?

Did you take off the factory glue layer on the sponge?  

Or did you use the rubber with that layer on the sponge, and just apply 1 glue layer to your blade? 

What glue did you use?

Also did you weigh the uncut sheet?


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Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

Thanks for the info ttrubberman. 

Where you using NEO DHS 3  41 degree, 2.2mm ?

Did you take off the factory glue layer on the sponge?  

Or did you use the rubber with that layer on the sponge, and just apply 1 glue layer to your blade? 

What glue did you use?

Also did you weigh the uncut sheet?




I'm also interested to know
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Thanks for clearing that up!

If you decide to keep that as your FH rubber - Let us know about long term durability as another month or two passes!
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We all want to know!!!

Is this another "factory tuned" rubber that keeps the glue effect for a month or so?

Why is it vacuum sealed?

Why do they say you should take off the glue layer?
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I've got two that are at least two months old, they are still the same as when I bought them so this is my answer

Is this another "factory tuned" rubber that keeps the glue effect for a month or so? No

Why is it vacuum sealed? To keep it fresh and keep the glue soft

Why do they say you should take off the glue layer?
They are on drugs/vocs lol


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Originally posted by Valentine Valentine wrote:

We all want to know!!!

Is this another "factory tuned" rubber that keeps the glue effect for a month or so?

Why is it vacuum sealed?

Why do they say you should take off the glue layer?
 
According to some resource on some Chinese website (but I don't remember where I saw this), "factory tuned" version of DHS rubbers have serial numbers starting with letter "p" on the sponge, normanl commercial and provincial versions don't have letter "p".
 
If you have NEO rubbers, you will find the serial numbers starting with letter "p", which suggests that it is a type of "factory tuned"  DHS rubber.
 
Can anyone confirm this?
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Originally posted by rick_ys_ho rick_ys_ho wrote:

Originally posted by Valentine Valentine wrote:

We all want to know!!!

Is this another "factory tuned" rubber that keeps the glue effect for a month or so?

Why is it vacuum sealed?

Why do they say you should take off the glue layer?
 
According to some resource on some Chinese website (but I don't remember where I saw this), "factory tuned" version of DHS rubbers have serial numbers starting with letter "p" on the sponge, normanl commercial and provincial versions don't have letter "p".
 
If you have NEO rubbers, you will find the serial numbers starting with letter "p", which suggests that it is a type of "factory tuned"  DHS rubber.
 
Can anyone confirm this?


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so can anyone check their Neo sponge and tell us whether there is a 'p' letter stamp on it?
thanks in advance..
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Yes all the NEO's start with P.  This was even true with the H3 Pro Tuned which is how we were pretty sure it was the Beta of the NEO pre Vac Pac.
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Thanks Rack..
So it's official, the Neo series is factory tuned...
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i try to post something here, if my bro able to get the neo for me, it is very hard to find 1 now
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Originally posted by dragon kid dragon kid wrote:

Thanks Rack..
So it's official, the Neo series is factory tuned...


If that makes you happy :) but remember to let me know if you still believe that once you have one

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Yep, I am pretty happy and will not be spending my money on factory tuned rubbers anymore in the considerable future.. ^^
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ok:) I wouldn't buy another neo weather they are tuned or not (I really don't think they are since mine shows no sign of ever changing) but the sponge rebound vs topsheet ratio is just a bit wrong for me so I'll just keep buying the blue sponge version (or commercials which work well anyway)

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Sorry for my late reply, I'm too busy on my work in these few weeks.

About the term long term, I means I keep using it for a month, 2 hours a day, 3-4days a week. The rubber is completely run-in and reach it's best performance. I'm not dealing with how long it can last for, I'm concentrated on the performance of the rubber. If you use Chinese rubbers before, you should know that it needs time to run-in, it's different from german rubbers, the best condition is when it is new.

About the tuning effect, it works well after a month, it is factory tuned of course.

I forgot to tell the hardness and thickness, it is 39degree 2.2mm. I think I can try 40degree next time, but I expect I will use this rubber for 2-3 months at least.

Yes, P means factory tuned. Actually, "Neo" just a change of sponge, the topsheet (according to DHS announcement) are the same but different printing.
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better late than never Wink
thanks for the information ttrubberman..
really appreciate it..
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Gracias ttrubberman. 
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Originally posted by ttrubberman ttrubberman wrote:


Yes, P means factory tuned. Actually, "Neo" just a change of sponge, the topsheet (according to DHS announcement) are the same but different printing.
Dear ttrubberman, according to this link
 they're discussing about the legality of 'NEO' for take part in the HK tournaments. So what do you think of this? TQ 
 
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Originally posted by RayChow RayChow wrote:

Originally posted by ttrubberman ttrubberman wrote:

Yes, P means factory tuned. Actually, "Neo" just a change of sponge, the topsheet (according to DHS announcement) are the same but different printing.

Dear ttrubberman, according to this link

�they're discussing�about the legality of 'NEO' for�take part�in the HK tournaments. So what do you think of this? TQ�



I know these guys, some of them are my friends.

About the Legality, it is non-sense to prove it by player /user. When a product is released to the market, it is supposed that the rubber can be used in competition as it is already labelled on the packing.

According to what I heard, Neo series use the same topsheet but different printing, but the use of sponge is different. Neo means a new sponge only, a glue-free sponge with treatment. In the discussion, DHS said they already have communication with ITTF, this is the reason why the rubber can be used in international competition. Actually, some players use the Neo in China competition but no problem, only HK judge question on it.
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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:

ok:) I wouldn't buy another neo weather they are tuned or not (I really don't think they are since mine shows no sign of ever changing) but the sponge rebound vs topsheet ratio is just a bit wrong for me so I'll just keep buying the blue sponge version (or commercials which work well anyway)


Did you try this longer time? I understand it is quite different in the comment, but I found it works quite well for me at the very beginning, and getting better and better in the first several practice. Now, it works great with my YEO, fast and spiny, drop after passing over the net, go faster and not jumping up higher when the ball get to the opposite side.
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Nicefrog, it happens to my H3 Provincial 38 deg 2,2 mm. which is very different from my 2.15 mm. When I opened the protective sheet, it's very sticky and almost the same as commercial H3. The 2.2 mm top sheet printing of the letter is not as bold as the 2.15 mm. I thought I was getting the fake H3P tuned. When I first play with it, it's very slow since the tackiness isn't gone. When I start to play more than 4 sessions, it's getting better and better. Now the rubber really breaks in, and I found my 2.2 mm is better than the 2.15 mm.
It might be the same with your Neo H3. Try to wipe the topsheet with sponge and water several times to reduce the tackiness.
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Hallo i''m newbie. So sorry if i want give a suggest for discussion be Ok. I used h3n neo commercial (6 sheet, i trial error with oil booster). Never tried dianchi,seamon, falco. I blend myself. So Im not good player in my club. I play tt for fun , and used for long time (3 year) h3n natiomal orange black - red (40 - 39). Red most durable with good care. I cant used tenergy level. To modern for my style. So this tread is very good for me. Someone review ( this subjective experiance, not absoluty is fact and fix not mathe, everybody have unic taste feel that object, this very interesting cause someone get feel different then me. N this make me know what i used. Please grow up, everyone cant same taste with other. And style have a big effect.) Thx very much. And stil give review. No appriory and receive other commant with wise. Peace.


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