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Alexey Smirnov - Joo Se Hyuk

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Originally posted by almal almal wrote:

Quarter Final
 
Chen Qi vs Maze Michael
 


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1/4 de finale : Boll/Ma Long
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Quarter Final
 
Chen Qi vs Maze Michael
 
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Semifinals

Chen Qi (9) vs Oh Sang Eun (11)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y1QAY0Q5

Samsonov (6) vs Ma Long (2)
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quarter final

Ma Long vs Boll Timo
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I have Joo vs Smirnov, and Vladi vs Chen Qi (group match) but MU is once again on the fritz. I will retry to upload...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stef Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/19/2009 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Gustosz Gustosz wrote:

Joo Se Hyuk vs Timo Boll

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Wow!! Excellent quality.
 
Is that ripped from ITTV? Looks like the quality is better than the usual ripped videos. What software do you use?
 
Will you be uploading more matches? (please do Smile)
 
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Ripping Joo vs Smirnov...
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Oh Sang Eun vs Kenta Matsudaira

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Joo Se Hyuk vs Kalinikos Kreanga

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i means last time all China's player are using cpen, Kong Ling Hui was the most successful player who start playing with shakehand, then u got Wang Li Qin, Ma Long... ... 
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Originally posted by fortran2003 fortran2003 wrote:

those Chinese's opinion:

Beijing province team is a very important factor of the whole system. This team emphasize too much on using FH , so their player's BH are weak. As to Malong, also his forehand isn't powerful enough to threaten Samsonov, so, How to beat Sam (and Oh Sung Eun, etc)?
They guess , Liu Guoling intents to depend on MaLin, Wang Hao and another young player named XuXin instead of MaLong to beat Samsonov .
long long long times ago, they play with cpen, that why FH was very good, and weak on BH
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thanks gustosz!
could someone upload boll/kreanga please?

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Originally posted by fortran2003 fortran2003 wrote:

those Chinese's opinion:

Beijing province team is a very important factor of the whole system. This team emphasize too much on using FH , so their player's BH are weak. As to Malong, also his forehand isn't powerful enough to threaten Samsonov, so, How to beat Sam (and Oh Sung Eun, etc)?
They guess , Liu Guoling intents to depend on MaLin, Wang Hao and another young player named XuXin instead of MaLong to beat Samsonov .


I had no idea that there are regional differences in terms of emphasis on training. So it is true that Beijing province training emphasises on FH attack -- very interesting! You can certainly see that in Ma Long's style; he is happy to punch block on BH, similar to WLQ. His BH is not particularly threatening either. Wang Hao's BH, on the other hand, is possibly the best in the world.
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those Chinese's opinion:

Beijing province team is a very important factor of the whole system. This team emphasize too much on using FH , so their player's BH are weak. As to Malong, also his forehand isn't powerful enough to threaten Samsonov, so, How to beat Sam (and Oh Sung Eun, etc)?
They guess , Liu Guoling intents to depend on MaLin, Wang Hao and another young player named XuXin instead of MaLong to beat Samsonov .
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Originally posted by fortran2003 fortran2003 wrote:

Some Chinese predict MaLong (and WLQ) will fear Samsonov for ever, this is the consequences of wrong training strategy of Beijing province team.
I don't know whether they are right or not.


Why is this?
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Some Chinese predict MaLong (and WLQ) will fear Samsonov for ever, this is the consequences of wrong training strategy of Beijing province team.
I don't know whether they are right or not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/19/2009 at 12:32am
I got the Eurosport Russian TV videos from torrents.ru - two QFs, both SFs, final and some portion of the 3rd place match.

But the files are huge - for some reason they are in VOB format so I will need to recode them and shrink a bit before trying to upload.
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Well, three birds with one stone.

- The younger players get more experience.
- The Europeans win, therefore garnering more interest in the sport, and therefore sending more and more talented players to play table tennis, which is exactly what the Chinese want, more strong competitors.
- Ma Long now has a goal, and that is to beat Vladimir Samsonov a whole lot in order to settle his score. This can be a big motivator!
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Well, Chen Qi is not so young... Just half a year younger than Wang Hao.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fortran2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/18/2009 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by big d big d wrote:

the Chinese made a big mistake by not sending ma Lin and Wang Hao


http://post.sports.tom.com/s/AF0009191296.html

这次我们是下了很大的决心,想给年轻队员一些锻炼的机会,所以去年参加奥运会的三名队员都没参加。因为这几名年轻队员在奥运会结束以后的这段时间表现好像还行,但没有经受过大赛的锻炼,而三名老队员在奥运会结束以后一直都没有时间调整,这次也是给他们一个休息的机会,�刘指导解释道,�而且那三个人比赛打得比较多,可以说教练对他们心里都很有数了。�

that's :

Liu Guoliang decided to give more chance to young players.
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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:

Either way, no matter what rubber he used or how nervious anyone was it was a master class in the game you need to play to beat the Chinese (if you can put the ball back on the table long enough sooner or later you will win)


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Either way, no matter what rubber he used or how nervious anyone was it was a master class in the game you need to play to beat the Chinese (if you can put the ball back on the table long enough sooner or later you will win)

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Vladimir Samsonov-Chen Qi:
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If you think about it, almost all the player has chance to win, the tournament result in Samsonov's victory isn't that surprising.

Despite of Chinese player's higher chance of victory, you can't ignore that no one can 100% guaranty win when one against another in such high level playing.

Ma Long is very good, but he made some mistakes that cost him the match completely.

1. Samsonov's forehand defense is good with wide angle return. Ma Long knew its coming whenever he loop drive straight down the line. If Ma long didn't hit toward Samsonov's body close enough, Ma still get a wide angle return. (this match is favoured for Samsonov's blocking skill)

2. He was hurrying too much for the ball in the last game; missed 2 attack that should not have be there. Missed 2 ball in last match means Samsonov caught up and also boosted Samsonov's moral instead.

Last note, Samsonov's attack is getting better, especially he flip kill quite a few, and it really can pressure the opponent even more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote icontek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/18/2009 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by big d big d wrote:

the only reason why he won was because he played a better game than his opponents


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Originally posted by big d big d wrote:

the only reason why he won was because of his experience and the reason why chen qi and ma long lost because samsonuvs game got to them he irritated them so much they started losing their biggest strength their drives they were missing the table but ma lin and wang hao would not hav done the same thing as we have seen in the past


"The only reason..."  Really?  That's so weak. 

Prove that Samsonov would have lost.  Prove that other players would have beaten him.  Its all academic.  (Obviously not possible.)

Making excuses for Samsonov winning?  Why not just accept that he was the best player in the tourney? 

 


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