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Best: Ebenholz V (Stiga Peter)
Second: M Maze (but I don't like much  ST handle from Tbs).
I have pretty small hands and I don't have any problems with regular Acoustic ST handle (I really dislike handle from L-size version because of the the shape not because of the sieze of it).
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Thought Id resurrect this topic. Is the M.Maze ST handle the same as Timo Boll ST handles?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote arg0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/15/2011 at 3:15pm
Probably not, as in the post above yours flash wrote:
> Second: M Maze (but I don't like much ST handle from Tbs).

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Donic Persson series ST handles are comfortable. They are oval in cross section. Width is good but a bit thin.

The Waldner series ST handles have the same width but are a bit thicker.
 
The wings on the Waldner ad Persson blades I've tried are a bit too wide from the bottom of the thumb bevel to the top of the handle. This can make it uncomfortable to hold and give the feeling that the handle is too short.
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Best ST handle I every had: Yasaka Dynamix 17.  It is sligtly bigger than most ST handles.  I do not have big hands, but the handle feels just right.

Worst: Samsonov Alpha.  Not a good blade by any means, imo.
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hk3 sq st, maze sq st. i like squarish st. most comfortable.
 
some thin stiga's st is not comfortable for me.


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BTY Mmaze, very comfortable to grip IMO
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pnachtwey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/15/2011 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:


Worst: Samsonov Alpha.  Not a good blade by any means, imo.
I have two Samsonov Alphas with ST handles.  We must have different size hands.  I like the longer handle. It definitely is NOT head heavy even with heavy rubbers.  My only complaint is that the paddle shape is shorter and wider than other paddles so it is hard to transfer rubbers to the Samsonov Alpha.

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Bty Photino has a very comfortable handle also...M Maza it's ok...
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Nexy Color Sq.ST handle feels very good.  I would not mind the same shape just slightly larger on my Galaxy V1.

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Originally posted by flash flash wrote:


I have pretty small hands and I don't have any problems with regular Acoustic ST handle (I really dislike handle from L-size version because of the the shape not because of the sieze of it).


I have small fingers. I use a regular Acoustic ST. Is a good choice?

What are the measures of the straight handle of Nittaku Acoustic ST (widht x heigh)?

I am finding a OFF blade with a ST handle think and oval!!!!
Donic Waldner Senso Carbon has a ST handle thinkest and is oval?


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For me
Best : M.Maze
Worst : Samsonov Alpha

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In my experience:

Best: Nittaku Haneyoshi
Worst: Nittaku Rutis


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Worst: TBS ST. A. Grubba ST. Very subjective...felt like holding a tool, disliked the squarish feel.
Best: Yasaka Swede Classic ST. Large version...felt like part of my hand, very comfy.
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Easy to answer:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote arg0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/27/2011 at 2:19am
I don't have any special issues with the handle of Violin. Actually, I must say that among the ST handles I tried it's quite OK, although I prefer less rounded edges, especially on thin handles. Among the ST handles I played with, here is my personal ranking (from best to worst):
Butterfly M. Maze
TSP Hinoki Pure
OSP Virtuoso STSQ
Butterfly Spark
Nittaku Violin/Acoustic
Nexy Lissom
Butterfy Chuan Chih-Yuan
Butterfly Kiso Hinoki V
Yinhe Stock (shape ok but jagged lens)
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Originally posted by 7plywood 7plywood wrote:

I don't want this thread to die yet.
It could be great wealth of information if everybody adds measurements to their posts.
Look up a few posts for some of mine (TBS, Baum Carrera, Korbel, Clipper)



A: width
B: height
C: diagonal


I just remind you of this post. I'm going to measure some of my blades later today.
EDIT: a close-up picture of the handle butt would be appreciated as well (for quasi-elliptical handles C is not very indicative)


Edited by arg0 - 07/27/2011 at 2:26am
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I measured the ST handles of the blades I have now.

Butterfly Timo Boll Spark
A: 27.1 mm
B: 21.6 mm
C: 27.7 mm (?)

Nittaku Violin
A: 27.3 mm
B: 23.1 mm
C: 25.4 mm (?)

Nittaku Acoustic
A: 27.5 mm
B: 23.2 mm
C: 25.5 mm (?)

Nexy Lissom
A: 28.6 mm
B: 21.6 mm
C: 29.2 mm (?)

The tolerance of the blade manufacturing process is less than that of the instrument I used for measuring (the handles have slightly different cross sections at different places), so I would guess that the error on the measures is about +/- 0.2mm for A and B. Determining C requires some guesswork, especially if the cross section is more elliptic than square. Therefore, I suggest to include a picture of the handle butts.


(I could't convince my phone camera not to focus on the background, but I'll try again).

EDIT: added dimensions of Spark.


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Can anyone comment on butterflies non square st handles like the innerforce handles?
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The ST handle of Acoustic is the same that the ST handle of Violin?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote arg0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/28/2011 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

The ST handle of Acoustic is the same that the ST handle of Violin?

Yes, within the limits of manufacturing tolerance (a few tenths of mm).
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Petr Korbel SK7 ST is very comfortable handle. The normal Korbel OFF is with very short handles. Timo Boll Spirit also is very good in ST variant. Everything depends from the sizes of your hand.
The topic will be more useful if the member who post make an appropriate comparison between his hand and the hanlde of the blade.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote arg0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/28/2011 at 6:22pm
Hands have many more sizes than handles.

I think measuring the size of the handles will be more useful. So if one plays with one blade and feels that he would prefer a handle which is larger, thinner, thicker, wider, rounder, etc., he/she can immediately know which blades to look for.

If we get enough entries in this thread I may make a database.
Once more, pictures of the handle butts, along with dimensions, would be extremely helpful.

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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Hands have many more sizes than handles.

I think measuring the size of the handles will be more useful. So if one plays with one blade and feels that he would prefer a handle which is larger, thinner, thicker, wider, rounder, etc., he/she can immediately know which blades to look for.

If we get enough entries in this thread I may make a database.
Once more, pictures of the handle butts, along with dimensions, would be extremely helpful.



Is a good idea!
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which blades have ST oval handles?

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Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

which blades have ST oval handles?

WSC and OSP RST
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Originally posted by zzz zzz wrote:

Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

which blades have ST oval handles?

WSC and OSP RST



and Waldner Senso Carbon Ultra?
and Donic Persson Power Carbon?
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Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

and Waldner Senso Carbon Ultra?
and Donic Persson Power Carbon?

All Donic Senso ST handles are oval

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Least comfortable: Matsush*ta Pro

Most comfortable: Joo Se Hyuk
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BH: TSP P1r Curl 1.5-1.7 Red
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Does anyone have the dimensions (measurements A and B as mentioned previously in this thread) for the straight handle on newer Joola blades? I'm specifically looking at the Joola Flame Fast blade, but dimensions from any modern straight-handled Joola would be helpful.

Just wondering how the Joola straight handle compares to the Stiga Peter straight handle.

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