I think it's a confusion of terminology. My coach calls what is described above as a "flat hit".
Flat contact with the ball (80-90 degrees). Drive the ball into the sponge and use the spin imparted by the follow through to bring it safely back down on the table.

I'd say the biggest difference between this stroke and the top spin /loop is that with top spin/loop I feel like I'm carrying the ball more. Actually lifting it a lot more and driving it into my sponge a lot less.

The sound is also very different. For the flat hit, it's a smack like sound. For the top-spin/loop it's definitely a brushing feeling/sound.

This so called "Forward (Chinese) Loop" is just a power loop.

In Chinese, the shot is called 前冲弧圈球, "forward rush/charge curved/arc ball."

前冲 "forward rush/charge" describes the aggressive forward jump of the ball after the bounce.

弧圈球 "curved/arc ball" is the general Chinese term for loops. It describes the pronounced arc traced by the ball that is characteristic of loops.

This power loop is used against weak shots whenever a more aggressive drive or smash is not feasible. Those weak shots include weak underspin shots like weak pushes and weak chops which are high and/or with little spin. Keep in mind that is "weak" on the professional level.

Watch any attacking player, Chinese or non-Chinese against JSH, they spin loop (with a more pronounced low to high swing) against his stronger chops, but power loop (with a more forward swing but STILL low to high) his weaker replies. The Chinese players power loop with their trademark "straight arm or relatively straighter arm" accompanied by little or no elbow snap. The European players power loop as well with their "Euro loop."

In fact, CCTV commentators regularly use the term 前冲弧圈球 to describe ANYBODY's power loop, not just those of the Chinese players. The term is used to describe a shot, not how the player is producing the shot, whether "Chinese" or "European" style.

That video of Ma Lin from the previous page is an example of a power loop against underspin. It's an advanced shot that requires high blade speed. Anyone who is not skilled enough will just dump the ball into the net.

The essential thing to understand is, as a looping strokes, the power loop or 前冲弧圈球 still requires a strong BRUSHING component at contact, not just hitting through the ball.

Here are a number of super slow motion footage, some of which show Ma Long's power loop. I hope they illustrate my point. Pay attention to the blade angle and swing angle.

De-acellerate and accellerate are not opposites.
If accelleration decreases there is a turning point where it becomes zero and then negatively it would become a slow down as opposite to accelleration. Before that happens it,s still accelleration and accelleration means increase for speed (not acccelleration of speed). You don,t have to avoid de-accelleration for that.

Opposite to de-accelleration would (or could) be "accellerating-through" a phrase used in the manual.




Edited by mercuur - 07/08/2011 at 6:15pm

Again, some pretty good super slow motion footage of RSM's Jpen FH in between points here. It should be pretty similar to the "Chinese" PH FH loop, if not identical. See if you can identify in these replays any elements mentioned in the OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNlfyD-qbHg&feature=fvsr







Edited by racquetsforsale - 07/09/2011 at 1:24am

kenneyy88 wrote: deaccelerate   de·ac·cel·er·ate verb (used without object), verb (used with object), -at·ed, -at·ing. to decelerate. decelerate  -to decrease the velocity of

Edited by Krantz - 07/09/2011 at 7:31am

Rack, I love you.

 

racquetsforsale wrote: In fact, CCTV commentators regularly use the term 前冲弧圈球 to describe ANYBODY's power loop, not just those of the Chinese players. The term is used to describe a shot, not how the player is producing the shot, whether "Chinese" or "European" style.

CCTV commentators are knowledgeable about the game. And they're usually old enough to have seen Kong Linghui in his prime. 

Edited by Anderni - 01/18/2013 at 1:41pm

Lol what is this Necro about...

I tell you,

I tried to turn the paddle after hitting the ball, and I felt that my shoulder was in pain.

Also the index finger plays a very important role. I felt if I can use my index finger to apply force toward the paddle head, I can create much more spin. Also moving index finger help to turn the wrist and the forearm forward (snap). I am surprised that the index finger can do so much difference.

Can you perform this drive-loop for slow spinny loop? I think it is hard to execute as the hitting part of the drive-loop will usually produce a fast ball.

How about backhand?

Another year passes, fun to activate this thread again in case that someone is still interested in the technique.