Need a slow LP

Well, I'm not sure about your definition of deceptive? Because certainly, a high friction, soft LP can be very deceptive in the sense that in can easily create a lot of spin and also kill all the spin ( bend in all directions ). But if you put a hard, low friction ( low, not frictionless ok? ) with widely placed pips on a fast blade then the result can be something perhaps close to a frictionless LP? Mostly reverse the spin. However, I think OX is not so easy to attack at least for me, but blocking close to table is sure wonderful.

Feint OX, definitely a slow LP

Kid , it is me.

Bomb Talent is not slow. I have it.

I have Feint III 0.5mm which is slower than my Octopus.

Feint III is very grippy, good for handshake off table chop and not that good for cpen close table.

Those TSP P1R and P3aR are not fast either.

I think Stephen and me have played many LPs. Just drop me a line and I can bring some for you to try next time.
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He is playing Donic Akkadi L2 OX. He said it is quite deceptive but I don't think it is slow.

Octopus is ok but not grippy enough for more spin variation.

You may try the Dawei Saviga V, or AVX Mo. I quite like these. Actually, I play Dawei Saviga V more than Donic Octopus.

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The speed of blades is also important. I have a few combination blades, that the LP side is very very slow. It needs fast LPs to play on it.
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Frictionless LPs could be more deceptive. I hope ITTF can make these legal again as reguested by the Swedish team.

I am still ordering those cheap frictionless LPs from HallMark, Dr N, TTMaster. I may make a fortune when these become legal.

Anyway, frictionless LPs are great for chopping and hard for opponents to loop. It is great training LPs for my teammates.

Yin,

Do you have Grass D-Tecs? I wanted to try this rubber but it seems a bit overpriced at $60... I want to try the Bomb Talent too...

Friday night Thornleigh?

Lol..ok elpmip,

I shall want to try SavigaV... What about 1615? Any good?

Thanks for the input.

Yeah...they only have Black though, I'll get it from here: http://www.affordablett.com.au/shop/product_info.php?cPath=2_15&products_id=43&osCsid=1e92e21792a66e3af31558065409c6ad

with a glue sheet.

I don't really like the feel of a sponge on the bottom of some LP so I'll go with OX.

What do you mean yellow thin page? And 0.1mm-0.2mm sounds nice, actually.

You can put that underneath OX pimples?? How?

It should probably be mentioned though that using paper instead of a sponge is not legal for competition.

A bat can only consist of a blade, rubber sheet and an adhesive layer:

2.04.02	At least 85% of the blade by thickness shall be of natural wood; an adhesive layer within the blade may be reinforced with fibrous material such as carbon fibre, glass fibre or compressed paper, but shall not be thicker than 7.5% of the total thickness or 0.35mm, whichever is the smaller.
2.04.03	A side of the blade used for striking the ball shall be covered with either ordinary pimpled rubber, with pimples outwards having a total thickness including adhesive of not more than 2.0mm, or sandwich rubber, with pimples inwards or outwards, having a total thickness including adhesive of not more than 4.0mm.
2.04.03.01	Ordinary pimpled rubber is a single layer of non-cellular rubber, natural or synthetic, with pimples evenly distributed over its surface at a density of not less than 10 per cm2 and not more than 30 per cm2.
2.04.03.02	Sandwich rubber is a single layer of cellular rubber covered with a single outer layer of ordinary pimpled rubber, the thickness of the pimpled rubber not being more than 2.0mm.

I can't remember where I saw the restrictions on the thickness of glue sheet, but any brand is legal as long as it's a glue sheet and does not exceed the maximum thickness (which was very thin).

Any sponge is legal as long as it's cellular rubber and it's one continuous sheet.

I have no problem with your experimenting elpmip, I love doing this myself as well, but I just wanted to clarify that if people want to use it for competition it's technically illegal and could get them disqualified.

I think Donic, Butterfly and Andro are all certified glue sheets.

But there is no information on glue sheets in the handbook...I actually don't see how the sheet of paper could be rendered illegal.

How many 0.0xmm, or 0.xmm is thick or thin.
Ought to be a number to be quantifiable, measurable and enforcible. The TT rules are at times vague.

I just put out a handshake blade hidden somewhere with a BTY Feint III with 0.5mm sponge.

It is really slow. Close to those frictionless LPs in speed.

I will resume playing this LP rubber glued on a new ZLC blade, FH JO Plat soft, for a while as modern defensive style.

Globe 979

I might try XiYing.