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The pro's equipment -discussion and questions! |
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Anderni
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Someone on this forum posted that he'd spoken to Korbel in person when he visited the US, and that Korbel said he plays with a custom glassfiber blade. Edited by Anderni - 01/12/2013 at 2:47pm |
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vutiendat1337
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Korbel Magic Hand with custom glassfibers to be precise.
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ttping85
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Who are you getting angry at? I hope it's not me because if you look carefully I was just trying to solve the misunderstanding between two different forum members not understanding each other without taking any position on their debate. May peace be on you
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My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
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idk
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Not you, probably the guy who posted incredibly wrong information then got smart mouthed in his defense |
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tabten5
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Wow. Just wow.
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T05 2.1 | VISCARIA | T64 1.9
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Lafetia
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Edited by Lafetia - 01/19/2013 at 9:35am |
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Butterfly Petr Korbel fl
xiom omega v asia (max) |
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chalo_sterling
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anyone know what is the chen qi equipment in this year??? 'cause in the 2013 china trials videos isn't clear what blade he use...
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Blade: Stiga Clipper CC
Forehand rubber: DHS TG Skyline 3 NEO Backhand rubber: Xiom Zava I |
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roar
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The NORTH Korean chopper, Jang Song Man, is using the SOUTH Korean's namesake blade: the Butterfly Joo Se Hyuk. That pretty much crushes your theory that professionals don't want to use equipment named after another player. Pro's don't care about the name, they care about the best equipment. Look at the first page of this thread where there's a list of players using Timo Boll series blades and multiple players using Jun Mizutani blades.
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tabten5
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1) I said there were exceptions. To point out one of those exceptions does not, contrary to your assertion, 'crush my theory.' 2) This theory, of course, can only apply with any consistency to the very top players, and that's obviously because it's unlikely that the player with a WR of 87 would have a (good) branded blade named after them. So, for the sake of the argument, let's restrict it to the top 10 for now. How many of the top 10 play with a blade with another table tennis player's name on it? At first blush, the answer is none. With perhaps two exceptions, that also holds true for those WR ranked 11-20. One would imagine that one would find more exceptions the further one goes down the current WR list. You could also look at previous Olympic champions, or World champions. How many of those played with a blade with someone else's name on it?
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roar
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I guess I have time today to prove you completely wrong, so enjoy! Xu Xin: Here he is using a Ma Lin blade: Ma Long: TBS and TB-ALC. Dimitrij Ovtcharov: Here he is playing with a Waldner Senso. Wang Liqin: Has numerous blades named after him, here he is playing with a Timo Boll Spirit. Chen Qi: With a Michael Maze, Butterfly Zhang Jike, Hurricane King (has WLQ's image on it) I don't feel I need to keep going, but I'll bet you can find a picture of at least half of top 50 playing with a blade that feature's someone else's name. The professionals use whatever works the best for them - they don't care whose name is on their handle.
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tabten5
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Roar, I obviously meant as of January 2013. Xu Xin no longer plays with a YEO, Ma Long doesn't play with a BTY TB-series blade, Wang Liqin doesn't play with a TBS, Ovtcharov doesn't play with a Waldner Senso, and nobody cares what Chen Qi uses (he was one of my exceptions.)
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IanMcg
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Ovtcharov does play with a WSC, and lots of people care about what Chen Qi uses (especially Chen Qi) Also, RSM used a red KTS Edited by IanMcg - 01/20/2013 at 6:26pm |
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vutiendat1337
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Man, don't be like a little kid Mickael and defend your stupid theory. Yes, I said it. It's dumb. "they don't want to play with a blade with someone else's name on it" You are saying that all of the sudden, for the new year 2013, pro's don't wanna play with blades with other player's name on it. All of them just changed their mind Table Tennis is not Tennis. The scene is different, the system is different, the stars are different. You can't compare the two. "nobody cares what Chen Qi uses (he was one of my exceptions)", really, nobody cares? By "nobody" you mean yourself? That sounds about right The bottom line is that most players don't care about the name tag as long as they play well it. That's the general rule. Sometimes sponsors and marketing strats come in play but definitely not that stupid theory of yours. I bet that if I bothered to make a poll about your theory, the results would not please you, my friend. But I won't cause it ain't worth my time. |
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idk
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So on January 2013 all the top players decided that they all of a sudden are morally against using an opponents equipment? Oh yeah, and I bet more people care about Chen Qi's equipment (he's very popular in China) than Kim Min Seok's or the other Korean kids.
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idk
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wow vutiendat beat me to the punch
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tabten5
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That first sentence is awfully ironic. In any event, I can't respond to this, because you haven't actually said anything - you've just pointed out (inelegantly) that you disagree. That doesn't actually amount to an argument, you know.
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idk
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actually he pointed out how your "january 2013" argument makes no sense whatsoever therefore disproving your initial point. |
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vutiendat1337
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With all due respect, there's no need for any argument when a suggested theory is so absurd. Roar posted pictures of only few instances of top players using equipment named after different players. Roar only showed the members of the CNT. There are more examples among Europeans. These several pictures is the only argument needed to prove you are dead wrong. It's like saying "unicorns exist" and I call you out on BS and you are like "you didn't provide any argument" Just drop it and stop trying to save yourself with further BS.
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tabten5
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No, that isn't with all due respect. As to my response to this, I refer you to my previous answer. You still haven't said anything. I have already responded to Roar - I'll accept current pictures, not past usage. The reason should be astoundingly obvious.
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vutiendat1337
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I give up. You win
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idk
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Still looking for an explanation to why your theory about morals is dependent on what month and year it is? Edited by idk - 01/20/2013 at 7:35pm |
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vutiendat1337
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Obvious trolling either that or really.... well, you know
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Baal
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What I want to know is how many more blades Tibhar can make that have Samsonov's name on them? And is this number greater than the number of BTY Timo Boll blades? I am too lazy to count.
Other less rhetorical questions I have are for people who follow these things: Does Maze still play with a Maze? Does Liu Shiwen play with a Liu Shiwen? Does Mizutani play still with a Mizutani? Does Korbel play with any of the Korbels? Does Primorac still play with either of the Primorac blades? I know ZJK does not play with a ZJK. These last ones are serious questions, I actually don't know the answer, but think I read somewhere (almost certainly on one of the previous 71 pages of this thread) that Maze is now using a TB-ALC, so it made me wonder. Edited by Baal - 01/20/2013 at 8:37pm |
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vutiendat1337
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The last time I checked I saw Maze using TBS with handle tape for a while. He doesn't even play with Bryce on BH anymore but Tenergy. LSW does play with LSW. Korbel plays with customized Korbel Magic Hand with glassfiber.
Edited by vutiendat1337 - 01/20/2013 at 10:32pm |
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proSpin
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Nice close up!
That is a Hurricane Long 2 blade. Saw its unique 2 red lines in other pictures. And its not a Hurricane Hao 3 nor a hurricane long 3...... National team players like himself can get their blades customized for them. He can use whatever handle he wants to. So please, commercial hurricane long 2 may be brown, but Ma Long's personal racket can be otherwise. |
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bbkon
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not fewer than primorac blades, players that bear their names on blades dont win wttc
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rui pedro81
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Vihito
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Liu Shiwen and Mizutani play with "their" blades. As far as I know Korbel is using a Korbel wood with customized thickness. Maze is using a TBS with T05 bothsides, Zoran Primorac is using the same combo.
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debraj
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...he had been playing Long 2 too long.
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vutiendat1337
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your logic is so flawed
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