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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

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I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink

If you've never seen what tenergy looks like when it's boosted, just take another look at the german championship photos. The only one that doesn't look like it's boosted to the limit is Boll's racket. 

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I can see from your equipment that you are a defender and I guess that you have never played with tenergies.Maybe you have tried out this rubber....But I play with tenergies from the time they came out in market.And from the time the came out I was boosting them cause I was using a weak blade.So my friend, I think that I have seen more times than you, how a tenergy is boosted!


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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

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I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink


Are you talking seriously? Or are you just talking in ironic mode??

I am serious.
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I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink


Have seen Chuang's (CCY) racket boosted somewhere on this forum when he came to U.S. and he uses Tenergy....

I had the luck to talk with a couple of top players from my "conections".I was told that on tenergy, the most players, are not using booster.I can't be sure if all don't use booster, maybe some use.And as the other two friends regards, that they commended before you my friend DreiZ...they can see that I started my post with: "I don't think" which means I am not sure.I was told that the most top players dont use booster on tenergies and that's all.This thing I know, this thing I am saying.
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A can tell you, for sure, that most of French Pro Players are using bosster on their National Tenergies.
The higher the level, the more bosster is used, in France. I won't speak about other professional leagues, but I would be surprised alot if it wasn't the same. 

Also, here is the biggest issue for Stiga Airoc new rubbers : they don't "scale" good with booster. 
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink


Have seen Chuang's (CCY) racket boosted somewhere on this forum when he came to U.S. and he uses Tenergy....

I had the luck to talk with a couple of top players from my "conections".I was told that on tenergy, the most players, are not using booster.I can't be sure if all don't use booster, maybe some use.And as the other two friends regards, that they commended before you my friend DreiZ...they can see that I started my post with: "I don't think" which means I am not sure.I was told that the most top players dont use booster on tenergies and that's all.This thing I know, this thing I am saying.
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you gotta be very naive to believe you can play at pro level without booster,ask any person who has seen the pros in the warmup room, i know a  pro player who put 6 layers of booster, even there is a pic of mizutani's rubbers with the edges bent upward  its blatant and he was making an uproar about the booster
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A can tell you, for sure, that most of French Pro Players are using bosster on their National Tenergies.
The higher the level, the more bosster is used, in France. I won't speak about other professional leagues, but I would be surprised alot if it wasn't the same. 

Also, here is the biggest issue for Stiga Airoc new rubbers : they don't "scale" good with booster. 

It happenes to be in the French league Kalinikos Kreanga.And as I know he doesn't boost, and has never mentioned in conversations that someone boosts his tenergies.So the first question is, you know very well that the high pros of France that boost?Or you just hear somewhere that they boost?And the second question...are there National tenergies???If you know my friend that there are national tenergies, let me contact with you to take some rubbers.
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink


Have seen Chuang's (CCY) racket boosted somewhere on this forum when he came to U.S. and he uses Tenergy....

I had the luck to talk with a couple of top players from my "conections".I was told that on tenergy, the most players, are not using booster.I can't be sure if all don't use booster, maybe some use.And as the other two friends regards, that they commended before you my friend DreiZ...they can see that I started my post with: "I don't think" which means I am not sure.I was told that the most top players dont use booster on tenergies and that's all.This thing I know, this thing I am saying.
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you gotta be very naive to believe you can play at pro level without booster,ask any person who has seen the pros in the warmup room, i know a  pro player who put 6 layers of booster, even there is a pic of mizutani's rubbers with the edges bent upward  its blatant and he was making an uproar about the booster


If you believe that I am naive, you should keep it for yourself and not insult me infront of other people in a forum, you don't know me in personal.Secondly I expressed an opinion from what I've heard from real pros in some conversations that happened to be there...I have some friends who are very closed to some pros and happened to be there and listening but also asking.So what I say here, are words from the pros.What you say....are words from people have told, who have seen and asked pros in the backstage-warming up room!So there is no comparison I think.But please bbkon I remind you that it is my personal opinion from personalconversations I had, so please accept it as personal opinion, don't believe what I said or keep your opinion but just listen the other's opinion even if it is wrong and don't call the others naive.
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink


Have seen Chuang's (CCY) racket boosted somewhere on this forum when he came to U.S. and he uses Tenergy....

I had the luck to talk with a couple of top players from my "conections".I was told that on tenergy, the most players, are not using booster.I can't be sure if all don't use booster, maybe some use.And as the other two friends regards, that they commended before you my friend DreiZ...they can see that I started my post with: "I don't think" which means I am not sure.I was told that the most top players dont use booster on tenergies and that's all.This thing I know, this thing I am saying.
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you gotta be very naive to believe you can play at pro level without booster,ask any person who has seen the pros in the warmup room, i know a  pro player who put 6 layers of booster, even there is a pic of mizutani's rubbers with the edges bent upward  its blatant and he was making an uproar about the booster


If you believe that I am naive, you should keep it for yourself and not insult me infront of other people in a forum, you don't know me in personal.Secondly I expressed an opinion from what I've heard from real pros in some conversations that happened to be there...I have some friends who are very closed to some pros and happened to be there and listening but also asking.So what I say here, are words from the pros.What you say....are words from people have told, who have seen and asked pros in the backstage-warming up room!So there is no comparison I think.But please bbkon I remind you that it is my personal opinion from personalconversations I had, so please accept it as personal opinion, don't believe what I said or keep your opinion but just listen the other's opinion even if it is wrong and don't call the others naive.

i said "you must be" i ve never said you are and what i know naive is not an insult and i never meant to insult you
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Ok, we should stop abou this thing and try to keep on discusing on table tennis.
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I don't think that they use booster for their tenergies.I think that this is happening also in chinese players...they don't need to use booster on tenergies..they are pretty fast from their own.Another thing is that I have never seen the edges from the tenergy rubbers to be up (after boosting) like the hurricanes and the skylines of the chinese players.Wink

I don't know if this is a high resolution enough photo, but to me it looks like the Tenergy is curling up?




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Maybe some pros boosting their tenergies guys.I said I am not sure abou all of them.I said that my opinion is that the most of them dont boost cause I haven't seen any tenergy curled at the edges and from the discusions I was there with some pros.
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http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=75263#post75263

The question is not whether or not they boost, but rather what they use. It seems that no one really knows though.
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Ok, we should stop abou this thing and try to keep on discusing on table tennis.

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Maybe some pros boosting their tenergies guys.I said I am not sure abou all of them.I said that my opinion is that the most of them dont boost cause I haven't seen any tenergy curled at the edges and from the discusions I was there with some pros.

they use heavy sidetape to keep the edges down, even in  countries where the tt is not so developed the 12 year old players boost
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Timo Boll's racket on the World Cup:



I don't believe it's not tuned, just look how thick are the sponges. I have tuned T05 (with one layer) and it became thicker, but no way thick like the T05s on the photo.
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The racket passed racket testing so this is all about people trying to infer from pictures what they can not possibly know.
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There is no way any of these pros don't boost, the way the clicking sound coming of the rackets are crazy loud
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There is no way any of these pros don't boost, the way the clicking sound coming of the rackets are crazy loud
Korbel once said that anyone not boosting was trying to injure themselves. My question is whether you can tell someone is boosting just by looking at their racket.
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The racket passed racket testing so this is all about people trying to infer from pictures what they can not possibly know.

you can boost and air the rubbers and the test will be ok, i boost my rubber and after some days is flat and looks flat in the blade with no curl
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The racket passed racket testing so this is all about people trying to infer from pictures what they can not possibly know.


you can boost and air the rubbers and the test will be ok, i boost my rubber and after some days is flat and looks flat in the blade with no curl


Which has nothing to do with the question of whether visual inspection can confirm boosting.
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I don't believe it's not tuned, just look how thick are the sponges. I have tuned T05 (with one layer) and it became thicker, but no way thick like the T05s on the photo.

Yes, but it could still be legal (factory tuned). I asked him about his Tenergies when I met him during his visit to Spin NYC. He said that BTY 'provides him with the heaviest Tenergies they have'.
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A can tell you, for sure, that most of French Pro Players are using bosster on their National Tenergies.
The higher the level, the more bosster is used, in France. I won't speak about other professional leagues, but I would be surprised alot if it wasn't the same. 

Also, here is the biggest issue for Stiga Airoc new rubbers : they don't "scale" good with booster. 

It happenes to be in the French league Kalinikos Kreanga.And as I know he doesn't boost, and has never mentioned in conversations that someone boosts his tenergies.So the first question is, you know very well that the high pros of France that boost?Or you just hear somewhere that they boost?And the second question...are there National tenergies???If you know my friend that there are national tenergies, let me contact with you to take some rubbers.

You can get them at the best possible price at saletabletennis.com
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You can get them at the best possible price at saletabletennis.com
Are they legit or fake? I have never heard of that online shop.
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by vivan4tt vivan4tt wrote:

A can tell you, for sure, that most of French Pro Players are using bosster on their National Tenergies.
The higher the level, the more bosster is used, in France. I won't speak about other professional leagues, but I would be surprised alot if it wasn't the same. 

Also, here is the biggest issue for Stiga Airoc new rubbers : they don't "scale" good with booster. 

It happenes to be in the French league Kalinikos Kreanga.And as I know he doesn't boost, and has never mentioned in conversations that someone boosts his tenergies.So the first question is, you know very well that the high pros of France that boost?Or you just hear somewhere that they boost?And the second question...are there National tenergies???If you know my friend that there are national tenergies, let me contact with you to take some rubbers.

You can get them at the best possible price at saletabletennis.com

You belive these are 100% legit???And don't say "yes" only from the looking...Have you bought them and tried out?
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Yup they are 100% legit. 
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I will have my doubts.Sorry friend, but it a personal opinion!Tongue
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Jun Mizutani talks about his equipment changes during the World Cup, and his plastic-related worries in general:

http://ameblo.jp/mizutani-jun-blog/entry-11947079017.html

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After reading this thread, I'm not sure if the rubbers are legit.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67811&KW=&title=is-saletabletenniscom-reliable
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Here is a link with some Equipment photos from the latest world Cup:

http://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/329/world-cup-2014-die-schlaeger-der-world-cup-stars
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Does anyone know what Oh Sang Eun used after SG ban. I know before it was Korbel + Sriver?
BTY website has custom + T05.
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FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725
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