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He uses a Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive with Tenergy of some sort on his fh (probably 05) and some orange or orange/red sponged rubber on his bh..
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:


Interesting,
Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager?
Werner and I have been best friends since High School.. I grew up in Austria and moved to the US 13 years ago.. Werner was visiting me in December before he went up to Chicago to play at the Spinvitational. When we played in my garage, I asked him if he played a off the shelf Schlager Carbon and he told me that it's a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with a Schlager handle and that the difference between both blades is that the center ply is thicker on the Schlager Carbon and that this brings the weight to 95 - 96 grams and that he likes his blades exactly 91 grams.
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!)

IceObsession: Again, thank you so much!

Updated the first post with more female players!
I was actually surprised when he told me that it was actually basically a off the shelf blade (even though not really a Schlager Carbon).. I know that he would have the option that Butterfly makes a blade specifically for him. Some Pro's do NOT play off the shelf blades like Werner does. His blade (except for the grip) is no different than what anybody else plays if they get a Primorac Carbon from Butterfly.. Again, the difference to the Schlager Carbon is mostly the extra weight. Most Pro's are VERY specific when it comes to blade weight..
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Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 

I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..

 
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers..
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I'm impressed by Schlager's dedication to this Topic. 
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Good to hear, Stavros :)

It might take a day or two for me to update the list right now. Got both moving and exams going on right now, but I'll try my best to keep it up!

Does anyone know which blade Christian Süss is using btw? And if he has changed his Tenergy's?
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

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Any spottings from Moscow?

I think I saw some Tenergy looking sponge on Tugwell's racket, and a Clipper of some sort on Smirnov's racket.
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afaik Süss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Scheiß Beläge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
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From Moscow, Petr Korbel seems to have switched back to his old Korbel OFF (5-ply) blade and uses some kind of Tenergy on both sides. I'm assuming its T05 since that was what he used before.

From the Moscow discussion thread, courtesy of member AMontiero:

Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Looks like Korbel is back to his trusty 5ply blade instead of Korbel SK7


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do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?
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What rubber does Dimitrij Ovtcharov use on the backhand guys?? any pics

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Pretty sure he was using Donic Coppa Speed although he may have moved onto one of their new rubbers, Acuda perhaps?
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Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Süss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Scheiß Beläge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz?
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what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
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Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips
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Originally posted by martu35 martu35 wrote:


do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?

I am not sure but I think he is using nittaku accoustic and some kind of tenergies
Blade: BTY Balsa Carbo X5 An
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz?


Patrick Franziska: Boll ALC with 2x Tenergy05
Philipp Floritz: blade is switching between various old Stigas: Hornet/Mellis/Ehrlich, Grip-S or Genius (he used to use Genius, but there are guys who say  he is playing Grip-S, cant tell for sure)

i dont know what wu jiaduo is playing, sorry.
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Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.
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Originally posted by netskater netskater wrote:

Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.


In the Ding Ning x Feng Tianwei video, there was a Tube Carbo and Ebenholz on the table. Don't know which belonged to Feng though. The Stiga website says Feng uses Ebenholz. Not sure though...
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Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


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Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Süss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.



Doesn't he use  an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing  with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?!
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Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Süss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Scheiß Beläge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...


"sh*tty rubbers!"? LOL

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was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?
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Is there an online catalog for this equipment. I'll keep looking around here. Thanks.

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Originally posted by le xex le xex wrote:

was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?


Look at 10:07 minute against Ma Long. Timo's black rubber is definitely not T05. The sponge is like Bryce Speed's or similar or something else.
What's the sponge color of T05 FX?
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Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:


Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:



afaik Süss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
Doesn't he use  an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing  with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?!

no, I'm also saw some kind of andro handle in this wttc
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he still uses the supercore kinetic off+ blade recognizable by the handle

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Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 

I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..

 
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers..
 
 
Have you tried Donic Akkadi? Don't know much about it other than that Fabian Akerstrom (World's top frictionless long pimple players) is using that rubber. Not as good as the old Hallmark Original rubber (of course!) he used to use but he did say that he'd been using the same rubber for over a year... I remember the old ones randomly losing pips pretty quickly.
 
I did some filming with him at the Worlds Champs that just finished and I'll be making some videos in the not too distant future.
 
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