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Reporting the mass of your uncut rubbers |
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stiltt
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or for people who want to tweak the balance of their paddle. 10 grams (5+5) taken off the head of the blade is huge and from head heavy a setup may become well balanced. just saying.
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dek-dek
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But should you not pick a rubber that you like and pick a blade accordingly to find the balance you initially desired rather than picking a rubber which happens to be the mass you may think appropriate? Plus there are nearly always abnormalities in rubbers that we the public buy as the rubbers profeissionals get to use are at the centre of the original rubber sheet ( 9 sheets in a 3x3 format) and the rubbers on the outside are not consistent e.g the trajectory the balls takes after being hit differs due to abnormalities. But if we forget about the abnormalities in rubbers it still makes no difference to a 'paddles' balance e.g head heavy because the rubbers weight SHOULD be evenly distributed from the centre of gravity. Just saying
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gmarziou
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I don't see it this way.
I know that I'm comfortable with a total weight of 140 grams or less, above I start feeling pain in wrist or elbow. So, given this fact, I know it's useless for me to test rubbers that are heavier than 60g uncut, so having this information is a big advantage for me. Maybe you're young and it's not a concern for you, but I played for 20 years and it is utterly important for me if I still want to be able to play. |
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gmarziou
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Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID, Model: 83-009, Rakza 7 Soft Thickness (max or in mm): 1.8 Colour: black Uncut Mass(g): 59 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 |
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dmras
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Nittaku Narucross Black Super Soft 1.9 uncut 53 gr width/length - 168 mm
Donic Acuda S3 Black 2.0 uncut 63 gr width/length - 168 mm |
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gmarziou
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Brand: Tibhar Rubber ID, Model: 74-009, Genius+ Optimum Sound Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0 Colour: black Uncut Mass(g): 58 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 Brand: Tibhar Rubber ID, Model: 74-009, Genius+ Optimum Sound Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0 Colour: red Uncut Mass(g): 56 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 |
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stiltt
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Brand: Nittaku
Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, GS Super Soft
Thickness: MAX (super thick)
Colour: BLACK
Uncut Mass(g): 51
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
Brand: Nittaku
Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, GS Super Soft
Thickness: MAX (super thick)
Colour: RED
Uncut Mass(g): 51
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
0.1807 gr/cm2 --> SO LIIIIIGHT!!!
Those 2 black and red rubbers weight exactly the same and have the same dimensions. That's what I'd call consistency!!! |
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Brand: Tibhar
Rubber ID/Model: 74-0006 GENIUS Thickness: MAX Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 70gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID/Model: Xtend SG Thickness: 2.0
Colour: Black Uncut Mass: 63gr Length: 170mm Width: 170mm |
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pnachtwey
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Red Diamond 170mmx170mm 64.16 gm density 0.222 gm/cm^2 Heavy
Black Power 170mmx170mm 65.83 gm density 0.227 gm/cm^2 Heavier The scale is accurate and must be calibrated every year. The rubbers will go on a BTY Balsa Carbo blade. 78.11 gm somewhat light to offset the heavy rubber. I like the packaging and the protective cover that can stay in place while mounting the rubbers and rolling with a rolling pin. I don't like heavy paddles but I am becoming resigned to the fact that 180 gm is the norm and not heavy. I am waiting for the BP to dry and still need to put on the RD. I will let you all know how the paddle turns out and compare with my other paddles. Edit, I just weighed the whole paddle. 172.66 gm. Not bad. Edited by pnachtwey - 10/07/2010 at 2:13pm |
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Brand: Sword Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, Hero Enhanced Version Thickness: MAX Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 62 Length(mm): 162 Width(mm): 162 0.2362g / cm2 Brand: RITC Rubber ID, Model: 729-08 ES Thickness: MAX Colour: BLACK Uncut Mass(g): 64 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 0.2379g / cm2
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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID/Model: Rakza 7 Thickness: MAX
Colour: Black Uncut Mass: 63gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm |
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karabijntje
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Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-012 / Vega Pro Thickness: MAX
Colour: Black Uncut Mass: 67gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm Brand: XIOM Rubber ID/Model: 79-008 / Vega Europe Thickness: MAX
Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 61gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm |
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karabijntje
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Brand: AIR
Rubber ID/Model: 106-005 / Illumina X77 Thickness: 2.2mm Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 54gr Length: 164mm Width: 166mm |
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Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-012 / Vega Pro Thickness: MAX Colour: Black Uncut Mass: 71gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm Brand: XIOM Rubber ID/Model: 79-008 / Vega Europe Thickness: MAX Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 60gr Length: 168mm Width: 168mm |
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GenomicsKnight
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Brand: Milky Way / Yinhe / Galaxy
Rubber ID, Model: 49-002, Sun
Hardness: 33 deg Thickness: 2.3mm
Color: BLACK
Uncut Mass(g): 64
Length(mm): 167
Width(mm): 167
Brand: Milky Way / Yinhe / Galaxy
Rubber ID, Model: 49-003, Moon
Hardness: 37 deg Thickness: 2.3mm
Color: RED
Uncut Mass(g): 63
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 169 |
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Still not in the DT's database:
Brand: Donic Rubber ID/Model: 3540004-28 / Coppa X1 Platin Thickness: 1.8mm Colour: red Uncut Mass: 56gr Length: 169mm Width: 169mm Brand: Donic Rubber ID/Model: 3400004-15 / Coppa X1 (Gold) Thickness: 1.8mm Colour: black Uncut Mass: 56gr Length: 169mm Width: 169mm Was expecting Platin to be heavier than Gold; but it definitely has a harder sponge. (Setup on Stiga Offensive Classic WRB, 80g, using Bty Free Chack Total weight : 171g) |
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Brand: Butterfly Rubber ID, Model: 14-010, Tenergy 25 FX Thickness: 1.7 Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 63 Length(mm): 180 Width(mm): 168
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pnachtwey
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Brand: Butterfly Rubber ID, Model: Best Anti Thickness: 1.9 Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 41.83 Length(mm): 180 Width(mm): 168
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stiltt
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WOW!!! that would be on the lighter side; that sponge is almost all air I presume (?) |
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pnachtwey
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Yes, Super Anti is very light and the sponge is very soft. Super Anti is not as stiff as others I have mounted. I have a TBS+2xT05 that is too heavy for me and one of the rubbers was ripped on a corner while looping. I replaced the ripped T05 with the Super Anti in the hopes of slowing down the game but still keeping the ability to attack. The paddle mass dropped by 20 gm. The TBS+T05+SA mass is now 161.17 gm. LPs are even lighter with no sponge. It seems like a good way to slow down the game and reduce weight. I know you have questioned my reported wieghts/mass before. I have a scale that was recently calibrated to 0.01 gm that is used for industrial purposes and really important things like weighing TT rubbers and blades. |
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Please don't report it ... I'm a kleptomaniac
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pnachtwey
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Brand: Gambler Rubber ID, Model: Reflectoid Thickness: 2.0 Colour: Black Uncut Mass(g): 50.06 Length(mm): 166 Width(mm): 165
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Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID, Model: Anti Power Thickness: 2.0 Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 57.34 Length(mm): 169 Width(mm): 169
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zhijie
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Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID, Model: 83-009, Rakza 7 Soft Thickness (max or in mm): MAX Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 59 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 |
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Brand: Donic Rubber ID, Model: 21-012, Acuda S2 Thickness (max or in mm): MAX Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 64 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 Brand: Donic Rubber ID, Model: 21-013, Acuda S3 Thickness (max or in mm): MAX Colour: Black Uncut Mass(g): 63 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 168 |
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Brand: Friendship 729 Rubber ID, Model: OEM Thickness (max or in mm): 2.1mm Colour: Red/Black Uncut Mass(g): 61 Length(mm): 170 Width(mm): 170 I weighed four and averaged them. The rubbers weren't trimmed very nicely so I had to trim them with a paper cutter to 170 mm square. I am replacing the old rubber on some pre-made paddles at work.
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Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID, Model: 3507005-12, Rakza 7 Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 65 Length(mm): 169 Width(mm): 169
Brand: Yasaka Rubber ID, Model: 3899009-08, Rakza 7 Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm Colour: Black Uncut Mass(g): 64 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 169 |
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Brand: Donic Rubber ID, Model: 21-006, Baracuda Big Slam Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm Colour: Red Uncut Mass(g): 60 Length(mm): 168 Width(mm): 170 |
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Brand: Friendship 729
Rubber ID/Model: NA / 729 FX Super Soft Thickness: 2.2mm Color: Red Uncut Mass: 51.2g Length: 165mm Width: 165mm ..... Brand: DHS Rubber ID/Model: NA / Hurricane III 19 Thickness: 2.2mm Color: Black Uncut Mass: 61.7g Length: 170mm Width: 165mm 4 corners cut, each at 45deg Length of cuts(hypotenuse(s)): 25mm, 25mm, 33mm, 34mm Edited by jjk212 - 03/08/2011 at 7:32am |
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Brand: Palio
Rubber ID/Model: Blitz Thickness: max Color: Red Uncut Mass: 65grs Length: 170mm Width: 170mm =============== Brand: Palio Rubber ID/Model: Blitz Thickness: 2.0mm Color: Black Uncut Mass: 66.5grs Length: 170mm Width: 170mm =============== It is strange that 2.0mm sheet weighs more than the max one... |
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