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or for people who want to tweak the balance of their paddle. 10 grams (5+5) taken off the head of the blade is huge and from head heavy a setup may become well balanced. just saying.
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But should you not pick a rubber that you like and pick a blade accordingly to find the balance you initially desired rather than picking a rubber which happens to be the mass you may think appropriate? Plus there are nearly always abnormalities in rubbers that we the public buy as the rubbers profeissionals get to use are at the centre of the original rubber sheet ( 9 sheets in a 3x3 format) and the rubbers on the outside are not consistent e.g the trajectory the balls takes after being hit differs due to abnormalities. But if we forget about the abnormalities in rubbers it still makes no difference to a 'paddles' balance e.g head heavy because the rubbers weight SHOULD be evenly distributed from the centre of gravity. Just saying
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I don't see it this way.

I know that I'm comfortable with a total weight of 140 grams or less, above I start feeling pain in wrist or elbow.

So, given this fact, I know it's useless for me to test rubbers that are heavier than 60g uncut, so having this information is a big advantage for me.

Maybe you're young and it's not a concern for you, but I played for 20 years and it is utterly important for me if I still  want to be able to play.



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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID, Model: 83-009, Rakza 7 Soft
Thickness (max or in mm): 1.8
Colour: black
Uncut Mass(g): 59
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
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Nittaku Narucross Black Super Soft 1.9 uncut 53 gr width/length - 168 mm
Donic Acuda S3 Black 2.0 uncut 63 gr width/length - 168 mm
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Brand: Tibhar
Rubber ID, Model: 74-009, Genius+ Optimum Sound
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0
Colour: black
Uncut Mass(g): 58
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168

Brand: Tibhar
Rubber ID, Model: 74-009, Genius+ Optimum Sound
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0
Colour: red
Uncut Mass(g): 56
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
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Brand: Nittaku
Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, GS Super Soft
Thickness: MAX (super thick)
Colour: BLACK
Uncut Mass(g): 51
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168

Brand: Nittaku
Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, GS Super Soft
Thickness: MAX (super thick)
Colour: RED
Uncut Mass(g): 51
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
 
0.1807 gr/cm2 --> SO LIIIIIGHT!!!
 
Those 2 black and red rubbers weight exactly the same and have the same dimensions. That's what I'd call consistency!!!
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Brand: Tibhar
Rubber ID/Model: 74-0006  GENIUS
Thickness: MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass: 70gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm

Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID/Model: Xtend SG
Thickness: 2.0
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass: 63gr
Length: 170mm
Width: 170mm
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Red Diamond 170mmx170mm 64.16 gm density 0.222 gm/cm^2    Heavy    Confused
Black Power   170mmx170mm 65.83 gm density 0.227 gm/cm^2    Heavier  Confused 
The scale is accurate and must be calibrated every year.
The rubbers will go on a BTY Balsa Carbo blade.   78.11 gm somewhat light to offset the heavy rubber.

I like the packaging and the protective cover that can stay in place while mounting the rubbers and rolling with a rolling pin. Thumbs Up

I don't like heavy paddles but I am becoming resigned to the fact that 180 gm is the norm and not heavy. I am waiting for the BP to dry and still need to put on the RD.  I will let you all know how the paddle turns out and compare with my other paddles.

Edit, I just weighed the whole paddle.  172.66 gm.  Not bad.



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Brand: Sword
Rubber ID, Model: 54-011, Hero Enhanced Version
Thickness: MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 62
Length(mm): 162
Width(mm): 162
0.2362g / cm2

Brand: RITC
Rubber ID, Model: 729-08 ES
Thickness: MAX
Colour: BLACK
Uncut Mass(g): 64
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168
0.2379g / cm2
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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID/Model: Rakza 7
Thickness: MAX
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass: 63gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm
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Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-012 / Vega Pro
Thickness: MAX
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass: 67gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm

Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-008 / Vega Europe
Thickness: MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass: 61gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm
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Brand: AIR
Rubber ID/Model: 106-005 / Illumina X77
Thickness: 2.2mm
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass: 54gr
Length: 164mm
Width: 166mm
* TBS - Color - Spear - Virtuoso+
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Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-012 / Vega Pro Thickness: MAX
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass: 71gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm

Brand: XIOM
Rubber ID/Model: 79-008 / Vega Europe Thickness: MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass: 60gr
Length: 168mm
Width: 168mm
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Brand: Milky Way / Yinhe / Galaxy
Rubber ID, Model: 49-002, Sun
Hardness: 33 deg
Thickness: 2.3mm
Color: BLACK
Uncut Mass(g): 64
Length(mm): 167
Width(mm): 167

Brand: Milky Way / Yinhe / Galaxy
Rubber ID, Model: 49-003, Moon
Hardness: 37 deg
Thickness: 2.3mm
Color: RED
Uncut Mass(g): 63
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 169

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Still not in the DT's database:

Brand: Donic
Rubber ID/Model: 3540004-28 / Coppa X1 Platin
Thickness: 1.8mm
Colour: red
Uncut Mass: 56gr
Length: 169mm
Width: 169mm

Brand: Donic
Rubber ID/Model: 3400004-15 / Coppa X1 (Gold)
Thickness: 1.8mm
Colour: black
Uncut Mass: 56gr
Length: 169mm
Width: 169mm

Was expecting Platin to be heavier than Gold; but it definitely has a harder sponge.
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Brand: Butterfly
Rubber ID, Model: 14-010, Tenergy 25 FX
Thickness: 1.7
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 63
Length(mm): 180
Width(mm): 168
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Brand: Butterfly
Rubber ID, Model: Best Anti
Thickness: 1.9
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 41.83
Length(mm): 180
Width(mm): 168
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Originally posted by pnachtwey pnachtwey wrote:

Brand: Butterfly
Rubber ID, Model: Best Anti
Thickness: 1.9
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 41.83
Length(mm): 180
Width(mm): 168


WOW!!! that would be on the lighter side; that sponge is almost all air I presume (?)
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:


WOW!!! that would be on the lighter side; that sponge is almost all air I presume (?)
Yes, Super Anti is very light and the sponge is very soft.  Super Anti is not as stiff as others I have mounted.  I have a TBS+2xT05 that is too heavy for me and one of the rubbers was ripped on a corner while looping.  I replaced the ripped T05 with the Super Anti in the hopes of slowing down the game but still keeping the ability to attack.  The paddle mass dropped by 20 gm.  The TBS+T05+SA mass is now 161.17 gm.

LPs are even lighter with no sponge.  It seems like a good way to slow down the game and reduce weight.

I know you have questioned my reported wieghts/mass before.   I have a scale that was recently calibrated to 0.01 gm that is used for industrial purposes and really important things like weighing TT rubbers and blades.
  
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Please don't report it ... I'm a kleptomaniac LOL 
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Brand: Gambler
Rubber ID, Model: Reflectoid
Thickness: 2.0
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass(g): 50.06
Length(mm): 166
Width(mm): 165
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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID, Model: Anti Power
Thickness: 2.0
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 57.34
Length(mm): 169
Width(mm): 169
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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID, Model: 83-009, Rakza 7 Soft
Thickness (max or in mm): MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 59
Length(mm): 168
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Brand: Donic
Rubber ID, Model: 21-012, Acuda S2
Thickness (max or in mm): MAX
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 64
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168

Brand: Donic
Rubber ID, Model: 21-013, Acuda S3
Thickness (max or in mm): MAX
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass(g): 63
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 168

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Brand: Friendship 729
Rubber ID, Model: OEM
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.1mm
Colour: Red/Black
Uncut Mass(g): 61
Length(mm): 170
Width(mm): 170
I weighed four and averaged them.  The rubbers weren't trimmed very nicely so I had to trim them with a paper cutter to 170 mm square. I am replacing the old rubber on some pre-made paddles at work.
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Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID, Model: 3507005-12, Rakza 7
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 65
Length(mm): 169
Width(mm): 169

Brand: Yasaka
Rubber ID, Model: 3899009-08, Rakza 7
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm
Colour: Black
Uncut Mass(g): 64
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 169



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Brand: Donic
Rubber ID, Model: 21-006, Baracuda Big Slam
Thickness (max or in mm): 2.0mm
Colour: Red
Uncut Mass(g): 60
Length(mm): 168
Width(mm): 170

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Brand: Friendship 729
Rubber ID/Model: NA / 729 FX Super Soft
Thickness: 2.2mm
Color: Red
Uncut Mass: 51.2g
Length: 165mm
Width: 165mm
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Brand: DHS
Rubber ID/Model: NA / Hurricane III 19
Thickness: 2.2mm
Color: Black
Uncut Mass: 61.7g
Length: 170mm
Width: 165mm
4 corners cut, each at 45deg
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Brand: Palio
Rubber ID/Model: Blitz
Thickness: max
Color: Red
Uncut Mass:  65grs
Length: 170mm
Width: 170mm

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Brand: Palio
Rubber ID/Model: Blitz
Thickness: 2.0mm
Color: Black
Uncut Mass:  66.5grs
Length: 170mm
Width: 170mm

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It is strange that 2.0mm sheet weighs more than the max one...Confused

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