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Anyone got videos of Zhiyang Cheng from NZ?
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Thank you very much for the videos JimT!


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Niwa Koki Asuka Machi-Simon Gauzy Quentin Robinot:
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Girls Singles Semifinals

YI Fangxian vs ZHU Yuling
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVHQGCVH

Boys Singles Semifinals

LIN Gaoyuan vs WU Jiaji
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M47PWBM2

ZHOU Yu vs SONG Hongyuan
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U7SFBOH2

Boys Singles Final

SONG Hongyuan vs LIN Gaoyuan
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E4EIWFYG
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Boys Doubles Final

GAUZY Simon, ROBINOT Quentin vs MACHI Asuka, NIWA Koki
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UVS9FR1Q

Girls Doubles Final

GU Yuting, ZHU Yuling vs ISHIKAWA Kasumi, MORIZONO Misaki
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=71JXC6IR

Girls Singles Final

ISHIKAWA Kasumi vs ZHU Yuling
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=99EIJJ9C

Girls Singles Semifinal

ISHIKAWA Kasumi vs YANG Ha Eun
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30HHQMK9

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Originally posted by PongPong PongPong wrote:

Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

Originally posted by PongPong PongPong wrote:

Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Lin Gaoyuan-Hirano Yuki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJ31d13ZFY
Lin looks like a young copy of Chen Qi.
 
I think he plays more like Hao Shuai than he does Chen Qi
Lin has big swings for both his forehand and backhand, and has powerful shots like Chen Qi. Even his forehand serve looks like Chen Qi's. Hao Shuai's strokes are not as big as his.


Well there you go for comparison. I definitely see more Chen Qi than Hao Shuai. 

Interesting the difference in the 2 levels of players. Though they both look impressive, the two pairs of adults vs juniors, the adults keep the ball sooo much lower and have a lot more spin when pushing.
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Originally posted by sandiway sandiway wrote:

re: Koki Niwa-Wu Jiaji

Just watched this. Oh my goodness, this can't be the next generation of penholders.

Wu Jia-Ji seemed unnecessarily nervous and more shaky than an bowl of jello. Always looking back away from the table after a miss. Wiffing balls left, right and center. Wonder why they picked him. 

In particular, Song Hongyuan would have been a much better pick for the team final. Seems solid as a rock. Wonder if they were forced to field a token penholder?
 
 i think song played bad before the finals  cos he barely won over danilo toma from brasil 3-2   and they didnt wanted to take risk...wu is good but still not solid but great spirit whn playing  OTOH among young chinese penholders there is zheng and fang cbut i think hinese must be testing wu jiaji.
 
lin played bad  in the final i think zhou deserved to play the final better than lin but song has an more allround powerplay
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

Originally posted by PongPong PongPong wrote:

Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Lin Gaoyuan-Hirano Yuki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJ31d13ZFY
Lin looks like a young copy of Chen Qi.
 
I think he plays more like Hao Shuai than he does Chen Qi
Lin has big swings for both his forehand and backhand, and has powerful shots like Chen Qi. Even his forehand serve looks like Chen Qi's. Hao Shuai's strokes are not as big as his.
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Originally posted by PongPong PongPong wrote:

Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Lin Gaoyuan-Hirano Yuki:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJ31d13ZFY
Lin looks like a young copy of Chen Qi.
 
I think he plays more like Hao Shuai than he does Chen Qi
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or maybe his arms are just so long that it makes it seem like it looks off.
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i feel like song hongyuan lacks a lot of the conviction that the others have on their FH's.
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re: Koki Niwa-Wu Jiaji

Just watched this. Oh my goodness, this can't be the next generation of penholders.

Wu Jia-Ji seemed unnecessarily nervous and more shaky than an bowl of jello. Always looking back away from the table after a miss. Wiffing balls left, right and center. Wonder why they picked him. 

In particular, Song Hongyuan would have been a much better pick for the team final. Seems solid as a rock. Wonder if they were forced to field a token penholder?
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Originally posted by TT over Study

Originally posted by Vladovich

Originally posted by umibozuuu

This has undoubtedly been covered elsewhere , but Can someone write the character for "Tcho"? Because I have no clue what Song HongYuan is saying, like "Tcho", then "出“ . The only thing I ever got was Ma Lin will yell 对 , or 才来 maybe sometimes. But Tcho remains a mystery to me. And being a prude, I can't imagine that Song HongYuan in the starry shirt would be speaking anything but mandarin..?

I have to thank you for this. Ma Lin's yell 对 was a mystery to me for a long time, I always heard something like "got it!", but now finally we have translation.
 
that 'goti' is 过来, and 'cho' is 球 short for 好球


I don't think that's right. The Chinese aren't yelling "qiu", they're yelling "cho". Even though one does say "hao qiu" after a good point, it's considered very odd/rude to say it after your own point. It also doesn't make sense to yell "ball" after a point (equivalent of us yelling "shot" after making a good shot.)

Note for example that the Koreans often yell "cho" after a point. They aren't yelling "ball" when they do so and they're definitely not copying the Chinese :D

As discussed elsewhere on the forum, the best explanation is that "cho" is just a way to pump yourself up.
 
yes, these sounds dont mean anything.. but im just giving a phonetic translation
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Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Song Hongyuan-Lin Gaoyuan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PQ58pWQXI


Great match. Those kids have incredible quickness. They were running to attack balls that were on the other side of the court. Like RSM in his prime, etc. Amazing.

It looked like Lin was very aggressive and had more power but Song Hongyuan had a more well rounded game. I liked his blocks and lobbing/fishing... Waiting for Lin to make the mistake.

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Originally posted by liang1983 liang1983 wrote:

Song Hongyuan-Lin Gaoyuan
  one of the things i would like to know is the equipement used by the juniors..but many are using composite blades
I don't have any info about the equipements used by the juniors, and most of them are using shakehand blade.
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what about Lin Gaoyuan in the final yesterday, he was shouting bang after his cho several times. What is that? Is it 棒 ? Sometimes I think I see them lip-syncing TMD :O !
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Originally posted by TT over Study

Originally posted by Vladovich

Originally posted by umibozuuu

This has undoubtedly been covered elsewhere , but Can someone write the character for "Tcho"? Because I have no clue what Song HongYuan is saying, like "Tcho", then "出“ . The only thing I ever got was Ma Lin will yell 对 , or 才来 maybe sometimes. But Tcho remains a mystery to me. And being a prude, I can't imagine that Song HongYuan in the starry shirt would be speaking anything but mandarin..?

I have to thank you for this. Ma Lin's yell 对 was a mystery to me for a long time, I always heard something like "got it!", but now finally we have translation.
 
that 'goti' is 过来, and 'cho' is 球 short for 好球


I don't think that's right. The Chinese aren't yelling "qiu", they're yelling "cho". Even though one does say "hao qiu" after a good point, it's considered very odd/rude to say it after your own point. It also doesn't make sense to yell "ball" after a point (equivalent of us yelling "shot" after making a good shot.)

Note for example that the Koreans often yell "cho" after a point. They aren't yelling "ball" when they do so and they're definitely not copying the Chinese :D

As discussed elsewhere on the forum, the best explanation is that "cho" is just a way to pump yourself up.


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Originally posted by liang1983 liang1983 wrote:

Song Hongyuan-Lin Gaoyuan
  one of the things i would like to know is the equipement used by the juniors..but many are using composite blades
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Song Hongyuan-Lin Gaoyuan:
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Originally posted by TT over Study TT over Study wrote:

Originally posted by Vladovich Vladovich wrote:

Originally posted by umibozuuu umibozuuu wrote:

This has undoubtedly been covered elsewhere , but Can someone write the character for "Tcho"? Because I have no clue what Song HongYuan is saying, like "Tcho", then "出“ . The only thing I ever got was Ma Lin will yell 对 , or 才来 maybe sometimes. But Tcho remains a mystery to me. And being a prude, I can't imagine that Song HongYuan in the starry shirt would be speaking anything but mandarin..?

I have to thank you for this. Ma Lin's yell 对 was a mystery to me for a long time, I always heard something like "got it!", but now finally we have translation.
 
that 'goti' is 过来, and 'cho' is 球 short for 好球

Oh, thanks. It sounds similar. I listened pronunciation on google translator :)
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jeez they are almost all lefties.
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maybe i was mistaken but as far as i know she was born in  1992 but i know she played in 3 wjttc..austria,spain,colombia................regarding zhu she defeated fukuhara and one korean chopper in 2010 japan open   so she is no fluke OTOH think kasumi had a walk in the park before the finals she plays like wang nan
 
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Originally posted by Vladovich Vladovich wrote:

Originally posted by umibozuuu umibozuuu wrote:

This has undoubtedly been covered elsewhere , but Can someone write the character for "Tcho"? Because I have no clue what Song HongYuan is saying, like "Tcho", then "出“ . The only thing I ever got was Ma Lin will yell 对 , or 才来 maybe sometimes. But Tcho remains a mystery to me. And being a prude, I can't imagine that Song HongYuan in the starry shirt would be speaking anything but mandarin..?

I have to thank you for this. Ma Lin's yell 对 was a mystery to me for a long time, I always heard something like "got it!", but now finally we have translation.
 
that 'goti' is 过来, and 'cho' is 球 short for 好球
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Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Lin Gaoyuan-Hirano Yuki:
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Originally posted by umibozuuu umibozuuu wrote:

This has undoubtedly been covered elsewhere , but Can someone write the character for "Tcho"? Because I have no clue what Song HongYuan is saying, like "Tcho", then "出“ . The only thing I ever got was Ma Lin will yell 对 , or 才来 maybe sometimes. But Tcho remains a mystery to me. And being a prude, I can't imagine that Song HongYuan in the starry shirt would be speaking anything but mandarin..?

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I believe Ishikawa Kasumi has a bright future but the rest of her mates don't. I am serious when I say she is among Japan's finest. The others are just cannon fodder. All you have to do is watch her game against Feng Tianwei to see that she is no ordinary scrub.
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wtf the Chinese boy's doubles pair gets a calendar as well as flowers for reward?
lol first time I watch the awards ceremony, but it's comical so far, it's like "ok so we have the Chinese lads on the podium, now step off, and step on again in different order for this other competition"..



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