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    Posted: 12/08/2010 at 10:45pm
I found these interesting videos of a player practicing pushing, and other drills, on a return board attached to type of LCD Monitor arm. As you can see you can position the board at different places and change the angle of the board as needed. 

I just want to know what is everyone's opinion on the board. Would it be an effective training device? (not as effective as a practice partner I'm sure) Or will it hurt my game?

EDIT: the channel, where these videos are from, have different drills as well.
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they look like rubbish to me. If you push to them it will come back with topspin so it's no help for pushing practice. The attacking practice in clips 3 and 4 you only get to play one shot and you have to do a serve before you hit. Buy a robot instead.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote patrick1v Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2010 at 1:12am
have you checke out the real return board just go to youtube and type in return board the have three or four different kinds and these i think are better than a robot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dza4gUz3aeE&feature=channel this one posted in the link is the better one



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price is the same as the robot too lol
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I made my own just a few days ago for next to nothing.  I think it is fun and good exercise (seriously).  My prototype is slow so I plan on building a faster one soon.  Thanks for reading.
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I've heard about putting a ton of cheap 729 rubbers on a board for that purpose...anyone have any experience with this?
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Originally posted by rawrtje rawrtje wrote:

I've heard about putting a ton of cheap 729 rubbers on a board for that purpose...anyone have any experience with this?

That is my plan actually, to buy 6 of the $5 729 OEM from zeropong and glue to them to a board and then attach the board to an LCD arm as shown in the videos. So, $35 for the rubber (shipping) and probably ~$40 for a LCD arm. Wood, glue, and/or other hardware I already have. 

I'm also planning on building a ball catch net to work with the return board. I have in mind a design where it will hang from the ceiling of my garage and dump the balls into a bucket.

I'll be on winter break in about a week, so I'll have time to build everything then. Unless there's a decent robot for under $100, I think I will stick with a return board and catch net for now.
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Return board allows you to practice different things than the robot.

Robot produces the same spin and placement for you, so you can work on your stroke against the same shot and do it over and over. Double return board, will only land the shot back on the table if it gets the same shot from you - more spin and poor placement and you have to start over.

So robot focuses on consistency in working with incoming spin, while return board works on producing consistent spin and placement.

Both are great tools. I've made 2 of mine for 15 bucks each. Using some very cheap rubber sheets, wood, and window hardware.









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I build a return board long ago and I still use it  (even though I've got a Newgy2050). It brought my game to a different level because to play with it you have to be able to keep the ball on the table and watch out for every shot you do,which is the essence of our sport. I used only 4cheap/new rubbers.The rest I've got from my club mates-any old rubber they had, cut them in tiles and glued them with old speed glue


It is bigger than the half table-more than enough for any type of attacking exercises like top-spin(short and long), smash and flip. You can't practice push with it


The biggest problem I had was to figure out how to mount the board on the legs. The solution for me was this:

If any one is interested I may make and post a picture of the board with rubbers.
Ohh yeah, I forgot to mention that I put strong rubber washers on each side of the legs(between the metal washer and the wood actually)They are enough to keep the board in any inclination




Edited by Kolev - 12/10/2010 at 9:19am
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I love the photos of the homemade return boards.  I made mine with particle board and some vinyl upholstery!  It is really good practice and I think I have been whiffing a  bit less already.  I thought that the rubber could be pretty expensive and wanted to try something else first.  I can tell you that mine is amazing in that you can hit the ball pretty hard, or with a lot of spin and the ball just keeps coming back.  I think you would need some anti-spin rubber to be that forgiving...
Anyway, mine is just a prototype, first effort that I built last week.  I still want to build another with some rubber to speed it up.  My board is attached to some metal shelves with two bolts at the bottom.  The angle can be changed by tightening or loosening the bottom fasteners.  A friend of mine sent me a link for some cheap rubber ($3.50) at
I made a demonstration video of about 2.5 minutes so you all could see what I am talking about (and maybe have a good laugh too).  I spent zero dollars on this backboard!
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Good job pongfan. I believe you'll have lot of fun playing with it.BTW, having rubber on will slow down the board. From time to time I turn the board around , so I can play against the bare wood and there is some funny amount of spin reversal, but too often brake balls.Now I am collecting old LP's to glue them on the empty side. I've tried to mix LP with normal ones , but it was a bad idea-didn't work for me at all
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Hi,
 
  I really like your return board.  Can you tell me the dimensions and name of the of the all the parts necessary to put the board together. 
 
 
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Originally posted by soggyNoodles soggyNoodles wrote:


Originally posted by rawrtje rawrtje wrote:

I've heard about putting a ton of cheap 729 rubbers on a board for that purpose...anyone have any experience with this?

That is my plan actually, to buy 6 of the $5 729 OEM from zeropong and glue to them to a board and then attach the board to an LCD arm as shown in the videos. So, $35 for the rubber (shipping) and probably ~$40 for a LCD arm. Wood, glue, and/or other hardware I already have. 
I'm also planning on building a ball catch net to work with the return board. I have in mind a design where it will hang from the ceiling of my garage and dump the balls into a bucket.
I'll be on winter break in about a week, so I'll have time to build everything then. Unless there's a decent robot for under $100, I think I will stick with a return board and catch net for now.


Try an I-pong pro. Its a weapon for the $ and so much better than all the newgy crap alot of people have.
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Originally posted by jhuimn jhuimn wrote:

Hi,
 
  I really like your return board.  Can you tell me the dimensions and name of the of the all the parts necessary to put the board together. 
 
 
                       Thanks,
 
                                     John
 
John,
If you are complimenting my board, out of all these other fine boards, then thanks!  If you watch the video on youtube, I talk about the details in the comments.  Just scroll down this link.
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Originally posted by rawrtje rawrtje wrote:

I've heard about putting a ton of cheap 729 rubbers on a board for that purpose...anyone have any experience with this?


i have made one for my school. id gave me a giod exercise but a few things you'll need to do is make sure.yoi do a topspin because if u get to hit it with a bit of sidespin you cant expect it to come straight.back at you. its going to be a.one.dimesion practise. its good if u dont have a club to go to and not much funds for a robot. but still nothinf beats a real person in practise.
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