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debraj
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how does renanos hold compare with yinhe moon? ... yeah i know its a tough analogy... but wanted to check what's the speed/spin comparison for modern non-tacky chinese rubbers with modern non-tacky spinny [non-tenergy] jap rubbers.
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vic#74
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Could you give a little more in depth comparison between RH vs Phoenix - in terms of speed spin grippiness sponge hardness and may be durability? I'm now using it (phoenix) and abs love it - so well balanced rubber ! But if there's smth better - I'd like to try it later
Thnx a lot!
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cls2222
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Must be a decent rubber since Chan Kazuhiro is using it according to that Japanese magazine which lists the top 16 players equipment.
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I played with Joola Phenix right before I tried Renanos Hold. I have never hit such amazing shots as I did with Phenix. Some of them were incredibly powerful, but I felt it was just a bit too fast for me. Renanos Hold has an overall "feel" to it that reminds me of Phenix. Both are of similar hardness. Phenix is the faster of the two, and the amount of spin I could produce with both rubbers is similar. The grippiness and durability is a bit hard to describe. A brand new sheet of RH is more grippy for sure, but it doesn't take long until the rubbers have almost identical amounts of grip. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary on either sheet as far as durability goes. Both rubbers seemed to last about as long as I expect a sheet to go. The only difference is that RH changes its properties a bit after the first few sessions. I basically feel like I could interchange the two and not have much trouble adapting at all. Phenix will be faster and more powerful...RH will have a bit more control and not quite as powerful, but still strong. Edit: Remember that RH only becomes like Phenix after it gets some wear on it. I don't want anyone to be mad at me when they try it out at first and it is way different Edited by notgood - 04/14/2011 at 2:07am |
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Edited by vic#74 - 04/14/2011 at 4:38am |
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beeray1
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grave digging!
I played with this rubber twice now on a friends racket. It's money. Money all day long- looping is so good with it. What I want to know, before I buy it- how long is this rubber lasting for people who have had it? Even more important question now since this rubber is 50 bucks.
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sa01
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I only tried hammond rubber from nittaku.
it is pretty good, and I got it for 29 dollars. so thumbs up for nittaku in my personal rating |
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Mahmood
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Hi there Anton , if you please could compare Renanos Hold to my EJ list, not all... Only the ones that you know about. And I mean in every aspect if you could please (Spin, throw angle, sponge hardness, topsheet type if its ard or elastic, speed). Xiom Omega IV Pro Xiom Sigma Pro Nittaku Narucross GS Hard Nittaku Hammond Beta Pro Nittaku Hurricane 3 (Yes its from Nittaku) Donic Acuda S1 Turbo Donic Coppa X1 Platin Turbo Stiga Calibra LT + And finally my beloved Baracuda. I hope that is not a difficult task ... No pressure if you dont want r havent tried any of the above. Thank you very much. PS. I think I am becoming a big fan of Nittaku
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Mahmood
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You mean the one that costs 88$? My God that is expensive... Did you get it? How was it? Was it the one you were looking for? I want a review :(( I found the same on ttnpp for 55$.
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a1exander
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Is RH slower or faster then Xiom Omega IV Asia?
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debraj
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i have a Barely Used Renanos Hold.... max black...... if anyone wants pm me. i can ship it anywhere in US for $39.
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bbkon
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i think is the old jo walnder rebranded |
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debraj
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wasn't jo waldner from esn?
renanos hold is from diff factory ..made in japan
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I have a question, I want to change to Nittaku
rubbers...
now I am playing with XIOM Vega Europe (soft) red in my BH and XIOM OMEGA IV Pro (medium) black on my FH... What is your oppinion on the NITTAKU FASTARC G-1 or NITTAKU RENANOS HOLD blac for my Forehand (FH) and on the NITTAKU NARUCROSS GS SUPER SOFT or the NITTAKU NARUCROSS GS SOFT red for my Backhand (BH)??? Thank you for your help. Best regards, |
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icontek
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Hello and welcome to the forums! First off, thank you for posting this is the right place! Without seeing your game or knowing anything about your level or style, it would be impossible for us to provide a recommendation with any degree of merit. Can you tell us more about your level, playstyle (videos most helpful) and what you would like to improve over the Vega and Omega? Also, what blade are you using? Thanks!
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ping_77
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I guess the level would be 1800+, playing style, close to the table, bloking and topspin BH, bloking and topspin FH, allround+ player..
My blade is a TSP BALSA 5.5 Thanks, |
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Gustau
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Ressurecting this thread... question: is this still a good rubber with the new plastic ball?
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frogger
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Upon occasion I use Viscaria/Renanos Hold and find it ok for the plastic ball. This blade/rubber combination is used by Darth Vader that is why I play it. Seriously it shouldn't be a problem unless you have a crappy stroke. |
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beeray1
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I almost bought a sheet recently for my Barwell, but decided against it in the end. I tried it a couple years back. I'm sure it's fine for plastic. A lot of people find it to be a really spinny rubber to loop with. And it's definitely not too slow from what I remember.
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lineup32
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I have been using RH for sometime as a FH rubber but recently decided to try the new P12 SoulSpin product as I wondered if the P12 would be similar to the RH. RH is listed as 37 degree hardness and the P12 is 52 degrees. The P12 like the RH does not feel boasted and feels similar but is faster with great control. The P12 is listed at $60.00 so its significantly more money then buying at TT Japan for $36.
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beeray1
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Bump:
Anyone using this with plastic ball? I've gone through a few different more modern rubbers on forehand side in the past while since I stopped using Hurricane 3. MX-P, MX-S, Vega Japan, Vega Pro, Fastarc G-1. I haven't played RH in a long time, still expensive enough that I'd like to see how it is fairing for anyone before buying. I kept thinking about trying Rasant Grip or power grip, or just getting back to the G-1. My main thing is that since I'm actually practicing and doing multiball regularly now, I'm noticing my rubber is wearing out much faster. Was thinking maybe RH might be a good option since it's not a tensor or a factory boosted rubber. Any impressions? Better yet, anyone have recent experience comparing RH to say, G-1? |
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DarkerMyLove
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2 places in Taiwan are not re-ordering Renanos Hold and one said it was being phased out by Nittaku (not sure how accurate this statement is). The other place was thankful when I bought their last black sheet...lol (right now tabletennis11 seems to have all options in stk)
At that time i was searching around, Tabletennis11 did not have stk for the 2 months I checked for it so I bought a sheet of G-1 locally, but i didn't like it. I felt that G-1 & RH have similar speed but the control was just not the same. Looping control and blocks just felt so much better with RH. For serves both worked really well for nice spinny serves. (However I spent only 3-4 weeks (6 hrs per week) with the G-1 so perhaps just not enough time with it) Both have noticeable tackiness but not like H3. Also if weight is a concern RH is noticeably lighter than G-1. I actually still have RH on my backup blade but I made the switch 7 months ago to Rasant grip as my main FH rubber which is similar in speed, control and hardness but no tackiness. Rasant grip definitely has a different 'feel' to RH but I'm enjoying Rasant grip.
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igorigor
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Tomioka (tt-japan.net)has it on stock.
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Ray
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After August 31, 2018, Renanos Hold will be discontinued.
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tom
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Edited by tom - 07/09/2018 at 12:53pm |
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[QUOTE=tom][QUOTE=Ray]After August 31, 2018, Renanos Hold will be discontinued. Not Renasos hold, Renanos BS will be discontinued. |
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Ray
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Renanos Hold: https://tt-lover.com/blog/fixation_table-tennis-information/outofprintitem_nittaku_20180831/ Edited by Ray - 07/10/2018 at 11:21am |
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