Edited by rnroman83 - 06/01/2011 at 3:53pm

What is the weight of the Primorac Carbon please?

Here are pics:

Sold the red already. I figured you were waiting for a response on that one so I delayed in sending the black one to you. When I did receive yours I laughed, thought to myself I dodged a bullet and if I payed for it I would have thrown it out then and there because of the condition (very old and worn, absolutly no tackiness making it unplayable) and have been to busy working to send it back ever since. That is the last time I agree to a trade on this website. Expect your rubber back early on in the week. I don't appreciate being conned.

Edited by rnroman83 - 05/23/2011 at 3:49pm

rnroman83 wrote: Sold the red already. I figured you were waiting for a response on that one so I delayed in sending the black one to you. When I did receive yours I laughed, thought to myself I dodged a bullet and if I payed for it I would have thrown it out then and there because of the condition (very old and worn, absolutly no tackiness making it unplayable) and have been to busy working to send it back ever since. That is the last time I agree to a trade on this website. Expect your rubber back early on in the week. I don't appreciate be conned.

Way to go,I have no doubt that if you had received a legitimate rubber you would have sent his.Too many cons on this site.

rnroman83 wrote: I have a bunch of pics up on the fifth post down. I will move them up to. Thank you Chris.

rnroman83 wrote:

Did not play with it or glue up. It is oxidized and dryed out (no grip or tack on the surface...I mean completely dry). I know table tennis equipment and what characteristics to expect from it.  This whole situation is insulting to my intelligence. These pictures and common sense are enough.

Edited by rnroman83 - 05/23/2011 at 3:55pm

Chinese rubber's spin comes more from its topsheet then jap/euro rubbers, whose spin comes more from a combination of sponge and topsheet. Tacky vs grippy. Forward motion with chinese. Upward with jap/euro. Instant spin with serves and pushes. Variable spin when penetrating the sponge with euro/jap. Neo sponge is elastic and tuned. Therefore the sponge is somewhat penetrable but if the topsheet is dead and not very penetrable due to oxidation, it will perform like a subpar, old chinese rubber (i.e. dead junk). When jap/euro rubbers age, you may lose speen and spin but you can still get trajectory and playabiility with it. With dried out chinese rubber the best you can hope for is speed and unpredicatability. In either case, I was getting rid of my bryce speed because I didn't want it anymore, not because it was old. There is still atleast 85% life in it. Just slight discoloration where my index finger brushes, and it is still fairly grippy in that area as well.

looks like he used it a bit. there's a mark in the center like a ball hit when I had wiped it down already. It should have showed horizontal marks from the brush. 

I don't think these observations are right.

Sellers pic is not detailed enough to be able to rule out glue residue.  Maybe he has a high res version.

Rubber in 2nd pic is not trimmed.  There is a small ball of glue residue between the 1 + 5, right on the edge of the sellers pic.  You can see this ball of glue residue in the buyers pic as well.  This is easily repeated for any of the small features on the edge of the rubber in the sellers pic.  The chinese character next to the 2 has the same features in the buyers pic.

Both remarks (two above) make good sense. My observations were suggestive at best. I retract it so as not to implicate anybody of wrongdoing.  Thank you gentlemen. 

Edited by pingpongzoro - 05/24/2011 at 5:28pm

I sent the rubber back yesterday and the postlady said it should arrive Wednesday. And no, I did not even bother attempting to play with that rubber. Again, nice try.