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Originally posted by 42andbackpains 42andbackpains wrote:

Finally got to play with my OSP Ultimate II for about 3 hours today. I paired it with MX-P on the forehand and T05 on the backhand. I have been playing with a OSP custom made replica of the old Stiga Oversize clipper from the late 90s to early 2000s. As i get older and more injury prone. I think i needed a lighter blade and a blade with more spin. I have been feeling the my Oversize is a little head heavy and overall weight was round 190 to 195 grams with rubbers glued.  I was thinking of buying a OSP Martin, but OSP launched the Ultimate II and i made the purchase and was one of the early buyers to get the early bird discount. I was looking to get more spin and feel out of the new ball and OSP marketing promised this. Now to the good stuff. My blade itself weight was 88 grams and the blade weighed 186 grams with rubbers glued on. The racket does not feel head heavy and the weight feels evenly distributed. With my first couple of loops, i felt right away the spin was increased compared to my Oversize. I also noticed i had a better whip when doing the banana bh flip and the racket would bite into the ball and had a good catapult.  Even though this is a all wood 7 ply blade, the racket didn't feel overly hard when hitting like many of todays 7 ply blades.  I felt the Ultimate II had good touch, control and overall increased my spin. This blade is a definite keeper and will be my main blade from now on. Note, One of my coaches tried the blade and liked it right away. She also asked me to borrow the blade to try for a week with her rubbers glued on. Now i can only hope she returns it...LOLLOL

Thanks for the review!
I also ordered one, but unfortunately I believe it will take about 2 months to arrive here =(
But it is good to hear that the blade seems to perform on the same way as it was advertised!

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After 6+ hours with my new Ultimate II cpen...

It has markedly higher throw/arc than my Ultimate, and a greater ease in generating spin.  It surprised me that the high throw made it feel slower to me, but it has more gears than regular Ultimate, and pace shots work great, with put-away shots  very satisfying.  Short game feels like I will have to work to recalibrate a little to keep everything low, but I feel that is only a few hours away. I have four other OSP c-pen blades and this one is tops:  most beautiful and  workmanship is outstanding.
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I also received an ultimate II. I am an OSP fan between half and a year. I discovered OSP with Ultimate I, and played with martin off pro, Immune Ox pushblocker with antispin in the backhand, then I moved back to two inverted rubbers and keeped my Immune until now. I'm trying to go back to a more offensive blade. As flatstyk said, Ultimate II seems to have many gears. It's smooth and flex in topspin but when you hit hard it feels stiffer. The arc is wonderful in loops and the spin seems to be very good. I'm going tu purchase a lighter one because I'm used to a 78g immune ox... so the 89g 149x158 is a little heavy to me. The blade does not feel so heavy anyway but I would prefer something more easy to use. 
I also felt I have to keep lower the ball in short game, but I think it will be easy because the ball does not go far away, it just goes a little high, so a little adjustement of the angle should be enough.
I play with T05 in the forehand and bryce highspeed in the backhand. I will tell you more between two days, I will try again the U2 on the training tomorrow.
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Originally posted by flatstyk flatstyk wrote:

After 6+ hours with my new Ultimate II cpen...

It has markedly higher throw/arc than my Ultimate, and a greater ease in generating spin.  It surprised me that the high throw made it feel slower to me, but it has more gears than regular Ultimate, and pace shots work great, with put-away shots  very satisfying.  Short game feels like I will have to work to recalibrate a little to keep everything low, but I feel that is only a few hours away. I have four other OSP c-pen blades and this one is tops:  most beautiful and  workmanship is outstanding.
Good review, thanks!


Originally posted by gromousse gromousse wrote:

I also received an ultimate II. I am an OSP fan between half and a year. I discovered OSP with Ultimate I, and played with martin off pro, Immune Ox pushblocker with antispin in the backhand, then I moved back to two inverted rubbers and keeped my Immune until now. I'm trying to go back to a more offensive blade. As flatstyk said, Ultimate II seems to have many gears. It's smooth and flex in topspin but when you hit hard it feels stiffer. The arc is wonderful in loops and the spin seems to be very good. I'm going tu purchase a lighter one because I'm used to a 78g immune ox... so the 89g 149x158 is a little heavy to me. The blade does not feel so heavy anyway but I would prefer something more easy to use. 
I also felt I have to keep lower the ball in short game, but I think it will be easy because the ball does not go far away, it just goes a little high, so a little adjustement of the angle should be enough.
I play with T05 in the forehand and bryce highspeed in the backhand. I will tell you more between two days, I will try again the U2 on the training tomorrow.

Thanks gromousse, I'm anxious to read more about the blade!
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Originally posted by gromousse gromousse wrote:

I also received an ultimate II. I am an OSP fan between half and a year. I discovered OSP with Ultimate I, and played with martin off pro, Immune Ox pushblocker with antispin in the backhand, then I moved back to two inverted rubbers and keeped my Immune until now. I'm trying to go back to a more offensive blade. As flatstyk said, Ultimate II seems to have many gears. It's smooth and flex in topspin but when you hit hard it feels stiffer. The arc is wonderful in loops and the spin seems to be very good. I'm going tu purchase a lighter one because I'm used to a 78g immune ox... so the 89g 149x158 is a little heavy to me. The blade does not feel so heavy anyway but I would prefer something more easy to use. 
I also felt I have to keep lower the ball in short game, but I think it will be easy because the ball does not go far away, it just goes a little high, so a little adjustement of the angle should be enough.
I play with T05 in the forehand and bryce highspeed in the backhand. I will tell you more between two days, I will try again the U2 on the training tomorrow.


Do you remember the main features of the Ultimate I and the Martin blades so as to compare how they are different from the Ultimate II?

Edited by Makelele - 01/08/2018 at 11:13pm
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Yes, of course. The Ultimate I is much more hard on the top ply and stiffer too. The trajectories in loops are different, the U2 lifts more, with more arc ; the U1 is more direct. It's difficult for me to say what blade is faster because I didn't use U1 for a long time, I remember the feeling but telling if it's faster or not is impossible. Moreover, I think it most depends on the weight of the blades and in the way you touch the ball, because U2 is slow on soft strokes and fast if you touch the ball harder. The U1 has less gears, it reacts immediately.

The Martin off pro is as stiff as the U1 or a little less stiff. The top ply is smooth, not as smooth as U2 but almost. It creates tons of spin, equal or even more than U2, I think if you have a high level you can give more spin to the ball with the Martin. But under this top ply very smooth, the blade is really stiff, much more stiff than U2 which have a very good flex. In fact, I didn't try Virtuoso but I know Virtuoso+, Immune Ox Pushblocker, U1 and Martin off pro and U2 has the best flex of all these blades.

The Martin is also more bouncing than U2. U2 is flex and smooth but the bounce is very regular, I don't knwo how to say that in english but you have exactly the speed than you want to give with the U2. The Martin is more powerful, fast and bouncing and it's difficult for a poor player like me sometimes, I have to struggle with this power. The U2 is much more easy to play, it's a plug and play blade, you have time to contact the ball, you can hit hard or not, you are always in control. It have something special : it feels very flex in topspin and it feels stiff on flat strokes. Like the perfect alliance between 5 ply blade and 7 ply blade. In fact I feel it close to 5 ply + 2 fiber blade like DHS N301. 

The reject angle seems to be middle for the U2. It's lower on the U1 and higher on the Martin. I felt that on the U2, the angle is middle low on flat balls and goes high in topspin. The U2 is excellent for the opening loop but needs to close correctly the racket angle to make a harder stroke. The U1 has a low reject angle everytime and that caused me problems in mid distance loops with too much straight trajectories. The Martin is fantastic at mid distance strokes.

For me U2 is the most versatile blade and "level user friendly" blade. U1 is better close to the table, not because of its power that is high but because of the straight trajectories when you hit hard. Martin off pro requires a higher level, it's probably the blade that gives you the best performance but it's harder to control because of the high combination of speed and spin it can performs.


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I tried to buy one of these by signing up to the early bird offer and followed up with a message via OSP's ticket system 7 days ago but so far have had no communication back from them. Any ideas on how else to get hold of them? I assumed they would provide a code to use at checkout for the discount...

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Originally posted by MydasDiablo MydasDiablo wrote:

I tried to buy one of these by signing up to the early bird offer and followed up with a message via OSP's ticket system 7 days ago but so far have had no communication back from them. Any ideas on how else to get hold of them? I assumed they would provide a code to use at checkout for the discount...
I think the offer was only good thru 12/31 so you might have been too late.  Had you ordered before the deadline, a coupon code would have appeared on the invoice automatically and the price would reflect the introductory price.
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No I signed up on 03/01/2018 and sent the message the same day when I couldn't see any discount applied on the checkout screen when trying to order. I guess I missed the boat then, although it's not clear from their website as it still has the early bird wording listed. Furthermore, I don't appreciate waiting 7 days and not getting a reply to say one way or the other. 

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Hey gromousse, what a detailed reply! Thanks.
And well written,too. Are you sure English is not your mother tongue?
You should do some other reviews of table tennis equipment, you explain things well
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I am also trying to find a great condition second hand V'King and have posted on here and TTD to see if anyone has one to sell and unusually have had no messages at all. Coming from a Viscaria/DD Terminator I think anything slower than the Ultimate II/V'King would be too slow as my strokes are now adjusted to being very short. As for Martin and Musko, I just don't want a blade that sounds like a guy from the pub or a ladies body spray LOL    
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MydasDiablo, you can try to contact them via Facebook. It worked for me (edit: I mean, I got an answer from them on facebook instead of by email, but it had nothing to do with purchasing Ultimate II after the promotion period).

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MydasDiablo, just pay a little extra for your "Martin" or "Musko" and have them customize handle with your name engraved, instead!  "Diablo" might be a fine name for your blade.
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They can also probably not write anything on the handle as a custom option, right?
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Yesterday I could finally test the Ultimate II against real players . It confirmed all that I felt against the robot . The U2 is smooth and flex when you loop, with much control and enormous spin, which allows easy and efficient opening loops. On the other side it feels stiff on hard strokes and it shows great power if you hit hard. You can shift from slow loop, high arc, with ton of spin, to powerful conclusive topspin with lower arc, very easily. It’s a little surprising at first, if you don’t adjust the target correctly before releasing all the power you say hello to the walls immediately... but if you take care about the bat angle and trust the blade, it won’t do anything you don’t want it to do. And then the ball goes surprinsingly fast. Anyway if you decide to loop in control you can also give fast balls with good arc without struggling in any way.
I was worrying about the control in short game but, as I hoped that before on the robot, the blade is not too much bouncy in short game and you find naturally the good angle with the bat. The serves are fantastic, very spinny and low and good stiffness for fast long serves.
Blocking is a breathe, much control and very good feedback.
Actually the blade is very close to the OSP’s informations : a new Ultimate, as powerful as the first one, but smoother, spinnier, with better control and with more gears, especially it allows to play further than the first one whereas it is really comfortable near the table. It allows you to close the game which is more difficult with the plastic ball than with the C ball, whereas it performs very well when the game is opened, much more confortable in rallies with a very good arc in loops and a big power if you need it.
A great blade for modern attacking players, very well suited to P ball.
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Originally posted by gromousse gromousse wrote:

Yesterday I could finally test the Ultimate II against real players . It confirmed all that I felt against the robot . The U2 is smooth and flex when you loop, with much control and enormous spin, which allows easy and efficient opening loops. On the other side it feels stiff on hard strokes and it shows great power if you hit hard. You can shift from slow loop, high arc, with ton of spin, to powerful conclusive topspin with lower arc, very easily. It’s a little surprising at first, if you don’t adjust the target correctly before releasing all the power you say hello to the walls immediately... but if you take care about the bat angle and trust the blade, it won’t do anything you don’t want it to do. And then the ball goes surprinsingly fast. Anyway if you decide to loop in control you can also give fast balls with good arc without struggling in any way.
I was worrying about the control in short game but, as I hoped that before on the robot, the blade is not too much bouncy in short game and you find naturally the good angle with the bat. The serves are fantastic, very spinny and low and good stiffness for fast long serves.
Blocking is a breathe, much control and very good feedback.
Actually the blade is very close to the OSP’s informations : a new Ultimate, as powerful as the first one, but smoother, spinnier, with better control and with more gears, especially it allows to play further than the first one whereas it is really comfortable near the table. It allows you to close the game which is more difficult with the plastic ball than with the C ball, whereas it performs very well when the game is opened, much more confortable in rallies with a very good arc in loops and a big power if you need it.
A great blade for modern attacking players, very well suited to P ball.

Can you make any comments about U2 x Avalox P700? I'm a long time fan of P700 and recently got one but I found too soft nowdays with plastic balls.


Edited by AMonteiro - 01/10/2018 at 8:59pm
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Originally posted by ohwell ohwell wrote:

They can also probably not write anything on the handle as a custom option, right?


I don't know if you can make them write something in the other side of the handle where there isn't the name of the blade (I guess that you can with an extra fee) but what I am pretty sure you can do is make them write anything instead of the name of the blade (of course paying extra). I saw it in a blade of a friend of mine who put his name. So if you don't want the words Musko", "Martin", "Virtuoso" or "Ultimate II" in your handle, you can make them write something instead of them.
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Sorry 😐 I don’t know the Avalox, never played with this brand.
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I haven't played with the Avalox700, but if you want a 7 ply all wood blade that doesn't have a very soft feeling, may be the old Butterfly SK7 can fit the bill. I am not talking about the "Korbel SK7" (which I haven't played with). The "SK7" is discontinued but last year Butterfly has released a model called "Classic SK7" that I guess in theory should be the same blade. But I didn't try this new one.

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or Ultimate 1 ;)
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Thanks for sugestions. I actually played with SK7 for a while but I don't like thick blades. I prefer blades around 6mm. I'm gonna try San Wei Fextra soon.. 
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Ultimate 1 is under 6mm, I guess.
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