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Originally posted by gatz gatz wrote:

    Will do next week i just got the NAC testing blade yesterday... hit with it last night and initial reaction is playability is better than BF and faster. I think by the time am done with it i might love it better than BF...keep you posted.

Gatz, I generally would not recommend BF for a close-to-the-table player - it's gears are low there and many other blades are easier to generate spin with on very short strokes. However, 1.5 steps away from the table or more, the BF shines - NAC's spin, power or dwell cannot compare to that of the BF from there. The BF exhibits much a deeper 'catch'.

A great close-to-the table blades is the TB-ZLF.

I've given very good reviews to the NAC here & thought it was a great blade. Others in that thread thought it was a bit slow.



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Originally posted by BB-Big BB-Big wrote:

How does this BF compare to Acoustic carbon or the new kasumi special?
Any comments would be appreciated.

p.s. I already own the BF but I am curious to try the AC.

The AC is  much more of a carbon blade, stiffer and bouncier. The ball goes off very quickly from the blade so you can generate speed with short strokes but if you want to for a higher speed and power with longer strokes it does not work as well as the BF. Also opening loops are much more difficult, especially on the forehand. 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Originally posted by BB-Big BB-Big wrote:

How does this BF compare to Acoustic carbon or the new kasumi special?
Any comments would be appreciated.

p.s. I already own the BF but I am curious to try the AC.

The AC is  much more of a carbon blade, stiffer and bouncier. The ball goes off very quickly from the blade so you can generate speed with short strokes but if you want to for a higher speed and power with longer strokes it does not work as well as the BF. Also opening loops are much more difficult, especially on the forehand. 


Thanks for your comment. At this time, it sounds that BF should be better for me.
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Update: I made a slight change - adopted the Barwell (after seeing forum member Jolan recommend it).

The gear change in the Fleet (low to high) was too large for me eventually. I guess I could have learnt to handle it in time.

Barwell has the same great feeling (slightly better actually as there's no glass) but is better at hitting / smashing while keeping it's great looping capability. Very powerful from mid-distance. The sweet spot is at least as large as in standard composites (like Viscaria).
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Hello.

I plan to use the NBF in the upcoming season and I'm not sure which rubbers to use on it.
My tests will begin in April so there will be enough time for me to exercise.
My current setup is:

Blade: Custom made 5-ply allwood blade by TTM (Spin Master)
FH rubber: DHS Skyline 3-60 mid hard
BH rubber: TSP Ventus Spin

I really liked the feel and stickiness of chinese FH rubbers I had as with my current 3-60 and the Hurricane 3 Neo Prov. I played before. But I am also fimiliar with Eurorean style rubbers like MX-P or Hexer duro. Most of the points I win with hard topspin shots (with my FH).
As recently as 1.5 years ago I used to play with hard BH rubbers. Since lately I started to use softer ones to produce soft topspins more easily. Presently I do also use chops (as often as I do attacking shots) so I appreciate rubbers like my current Ventus Spin which are suitable for chopping.
I also like blocking on both sides.

I did some research to look for some new rubbers which suit my style of play. I discovered the new DHS rubber Hurricane 8 and I'm pretty sure I would like it's power and spin but I'm worried that it will be too uncontrollable. Furthermore I found the Adidas p7 as a highly recommended and reliable rubber which is good in all shots.
For my BH I want to keep the ability to produce soft ts, flics, chops and blocks easily but I want to become more active and aggressive in rallies. I discovered the XIOM Sigma Europe II as an option. Do you think it would work? If not I would try my current BH rubber.

I hope you can give me some advice. Smile
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i'm thinking of getting this switching from viscaria, but i already have a new mizutani waiting on standby. i also noticed that nittaku sponsored players who were playing hinoblaze and bf have switched back to acoustic with the plastic ball. is it still better to get barwell/bf or do i go to mizutani?
Viscaria / T05 / T80
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If you want more speed but still a lot of control you should get the Barwell Fleet. If you want even more speed the Mizutani is faster but has much less control. 
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Hello,
I had a great desire to try a blade with glass fibers and my step was to Nittaku Barwell Fleat, where after a quote I almost called the doctor  Nuke
I've never bought such an expensive blade and I had no intention of doing. But after reading the
reviews beetle came through my head to the other side and I had such a strong will as
Anton Chigurg to say no and so I ordered. Tabletenis11 added very soon, carefully wrapped as always.
 
Few details:
 
The manufacturer states blade size 158x151mm, the fact is 157 mm x 151 mm, weight 85 grams.
Possession FL very comfortable, not so small as Petr Korbel FL or FL Boll Alc, processing perfect, bravo Nittaku,
no sharp edges, just class work!

The first night I put my favorite rubber Donic Blue Fire M2 max and Xiom Vega Pro max.
Unfortunately, it was not too happy choice Unhappy
 Blue Fire had a tinny feel a very short possession, for me, absolutely
unplayable combination.
Xiom Vega was a bit better, but nothing beyond what I could say ,null, ,null, Wou


The second night I chose Tibhar Evo EL P max and P max Rhyzm. We have been completely different kaffe!

The rate of this combination is not staggering, like my Korbel SK7 + Donic M2 max and I had no
no problem customize my moves to new equipment. The feeling is not at all hard and sharp, rather muffled and slightly husky. Catapult slight, huge sweetspot, zero vibration, excellent sense of control !!!

Rhyzm P max took me a lot to FH .Medium high flight curve and relatively long holding balloon allowed me to play
very precise and controlled FH. I could měmit speed and high accuracy location and I still had the ball under control.
Rhyzm P is the Barwell Fleat not bouncy, produces a good rotation and is very easy to play just brush contact. I do not know to what extent this is due to Barwell Fleet, but it just works and you feel that you can send the ball exactly where you want.
Evo EL P appears unlike Rhyzm P vivid with a slightly higher speed and holding ball is shorter, the perfect choice for my BH duress.

In short, how to play?

Short game is both very easy rubbers.
 
Servis -Rhyzm can certainly give more spin, but neither EVO EL P is not far behind.
Block - Both covers block very well, but Evo is zážez easier to block incoming topspin despite
slightly higher flight envelope. Rhyzm P bit more responsive to incoming spin.
 Slow-hit topspin thanks prolonged contact with the balloon easier with Rhyzm P. But as soon as
increases speed, Evo EL P shines brightly control and ease of use, speed can do if the combination.
I really like the rubber Rhyzm P, but I'm not sure that in combination Barwell Fleet's exactly what I was looking for.
Thickness max lacks a bit of natural catapult for my FH and 2.0 mm is already so alive that I was not able to
to manage. I do not currently leave Ryzm P, so I prefer left Barweell Fleat despite the fact that it is one of the
best wood that I have ever owned.
 

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FH-Donic Acuda S2 Max
BH-Tibhar ELP 1.9

Donic Crest AR+
FH-Joola Maxxxp 2.0
BH-Joola Rhyzm Tech 2.0

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Wolf, u selling?
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Unfortunately , it's already sold 
Donic Crest Off
FH-Donic Acuda S2 Max
BH-Tibhar ELP 1.9

Donic Crest AR+
FH-Joola Maxxxp 2.0
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Originally posted by Ergosquare Ergosquare wrote:

Hello.

I plan to use the NBF in the upcoming season and I'm not sure which rubbers to use on it.
My tests will begin in April so there will be enough time for me to exercise.
My current setup is:

Blade: Custom made 5-ply allwood blade by TTM (Spin Master)
FH rubber: DHS Skyline 3-60 mid hard
BH rubber: TSP Ventus Spin

I really liked the feel<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">and stickiness</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;"> of chinese FH</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;"> rubbers I had as with my current 3-60 and the Hurricane 3 Neo Prov. I played before. But I am also fimiliar with Eurorean style rubbers like MX-P or Hexer duro. Most of the points I win with hard topspin shots (with my FH).</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">As recently as 1.5 years ago I used to play with hard BH rubbers. Since lately I started to use softer ones to produce soft topspins more easily. Presently I do also use chops (as often as I do attacking shots) so I appreciate rubbers like my current Ventus Spin which are suitable for chopping.</span>
I also like blocking on both sides.

<span style="line-height: 1.4;">I did some research to look for some new rubbers which suit my style of play. I discovered the new DHS rubber Hurricane 8 and I'm pretty sure I would like it's power and spin but I'm worried that it will be too uncontrollable. Furthermore I found the Adidas p7 as a highly recommended and reliable rubber which is good in all shots.</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">For my BH I want to keep the ability to produce soft ts, flics, chops and blocks easily but I want to become more active and aggressive in rallies. I discovered the XIOM Sigma Europe II as an option. Do you think it would work? If not I would try my current BH rubber.</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">
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<span style="line-height: 1.4;">I hope you can give me some advice. Smile</span>


I actually use a 2+ year old sigma 2 pro max from my old ass blade on my baby hayabusa zxi. It does wonders for on table flicking on bh. The rubber, believe it or not (s2pro) still does wonders off the table. I loop , drive, power drive, smash. Everything with it.
One thing to keep in mind though, we are using different blades and I use tearmender to glue my rubbers.
After playing wonderfully for the past years, she's having a hard time pushing. Before i would just hold my paddle. Now I have to put a little wrist jerk into it. Im a huge fan of jan ove waldner and seeing how he pushes in his old matches, i try to do the same. Its not as tensored as it once was. The effect wore off over the years. I treat it like a non tensor rubber now, at least when it comes to pushing.


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Does it pair well with Tenergy 05?
Viscaria FL
Tibhar Evolution MX-S 2.2 Black FH
Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red BH
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How does BF compared to BTY Amultart in term of speed and hardness? Could any EJ give me some information please.
BTY Amultart

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