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    Posted: 09/12/2011 at 3:13pm
Seems like this blade has exploded in recent sales. Can anyone give a review of this blade? It seems construction is similiar to BTY Keyshot Light. Soft feeling with very good speed for loopers. I wonder how it would play with Bryce/Sriver combo. Darn pretty blade too.
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Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
               
                                          
         Very nice, give us a review when you can please. I read it does not pair well with Tenergy 05 thus giving a ridiculus high throw. Bryce/Sriver should pair well with this blade. Smile
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
I should take ur words for granted, I'm not a huge fan of Pure Arylate blades anyway.
These blades never seem to "arouse" my curiousity. So, when will your EJism stop, John? Mine has been nowhere to be found.....ermmm...except that someth'n w/An. handle...Big smile Too dear & expensive 2b honest.
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
I should take ur words for granted, I'm not a huge fan of Pure Arylate blades anyway.
These blades never seem to "arouse" my curiousity. So, when will your EJism stop, John? Mine has been nowhere to be found.....ermmm...except that someth'n w/An. handle...Big smile Too dear & expensive 2b honest.
 
Are you kidding??   LOL  I'm having too much fun!! LOL


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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
               
                                          
         Very nice, give us a review when you can please. I read it does not pair well with Tenergy 05 thus giving a ridiculus high throw. Bryce/Sriver should pair well with this blade. Smile


Some Taiwanese National players are using it with 05 and 64
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Originally posted by Nori Nori wrote:

Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Mine should be here this week, I take it that it'll be like the TB Spark but a touch faster. Testing soon.
               
                                          
         Very nice, give us a review when you can please. I read it does not pair well with Tenergy 05 thus giving a ridiculus high throw. Bryce/Sriver should pair well with this blade. Smile


Some Taiwanese National players are using it with 05 and 64
 
I'll use the National T05 and see how it plays.
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I ordered mine today with Sriver G3/ Bryce FX, will give a review a bit later on after a few sessions. Thumbs Up
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I can give a review but it is based on a moded Innerforce AL:

Paired with h2 neo on FH and MarkV BH - my blade for 4 months

Feel: Soft to Medium-Soft
Speed: Faster than the Bazelart --->>> slower than Viscaria

Compared to the Bazelart (similar to spark but a notch faster) it is much more solid overall. 

Can someone give me a format for reviewing. This will be my first review on this forum since i have joined lol

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I had an Innerforce AL for a few weeks until I sold it. My impressions:

Speed:  It's a few clicks slower than a TBS, but I was using 05/64 so it wasn't too slow to use by any means.  Probably a 7/10.

Feeling:  There's neither the woody feel nor the crisp carbon feel to this blade.  It's very dead feeling - no vibration whatsoever, but it's not the carbon vibrationless feel that I love - more like hitting the ball with a rock.

The blade is very nice looking and the ST handle felt very comfortable in my hands.  It's the rounded ST not the square.

Final verdict:  I would not purchase this blade again.  For the money, I'd much rather get an ALC with slightly higher top end speed and a much better feel.
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your mini-review almost summed up my "no-need-for-my-future-mini" review as well...I had the luxury of borrowing/using my friends’s these so-called (imho anyway) "Old Keyshot & Old MoonBeanm wannabies", namely KeyShot light, TB Spark, & Innerforce AL. I believe, these blades were a little too soft or dead, not as nice as say, TBS, KLHSp & Viscaria. For the $$$ I’d not pick/buy any of these. Not only did I say so, the owner/my friend just wanted to let them go after a short time w/these, mind you, he’s highly rated locally in BC. I sold these locally for him though, whew…

Not quite sure about BazeLARD, If Bazelard is almost the same as discontinued TB Spark as some people have said, then well, need I say more?

Just my thought…

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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

@roar

your mini-review almost summed up my "no-need-for-my-future-mini" review as well...I had the luxury of borrowing/using my friends’s these so-called (imho anyway) "Old Keyshot & Old MoonBeanm wannabies", namely KeyShot light, TB Spark, & Innerforce AL. I believe, these blades were a little too soft or dead, not as nice as say, TBS, KLHSp & Viscaria. For the $$$ I’d not pick/buy any of these. Not only did I say so, the owner/my friend just wanted to let them go after a short time w/these, mind you, he’s highly rated locally in BC. I sold these locally for him though, whew…

Not quite sure about BazeLARD, If Bazelard is almost the same as discontinued TB Spark as some people have said, then well, need I say more?

Just my thought…


You mentioned yourself, you're not a fan or arylate blades. 
The dead/soft feeling actually felt bouncy to me compared to an alc blade.

The arylate blades are great for chinese rubbers due to their high throw IME
Everyone's style is different so it just depends, compared to my current viscaria, the AL blades have too high a flex for the offensive game that i play.

Overall though the Innerforce AL is the best one compared to the Spark and Bazelart i have played with

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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Seems like this blade has exploded in recent sales. Can anyone give a review of this blade? It seems construction is similiar to BTY Keyshot Light. Soft feeling with very good speed for loopers. I wonder how it would play with Bryce/Sriver combo. Darn pretty blade too.


how do u know sales exploded?

curious cos i wana check other blades.

or is it the usual speculation..
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yeah i questioned that too...

maybe cuz its on sale? lol
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I don't really understand why are you guys rating spark so low. Honestly, I have never seen anyone using this blade around me in Canada/US. Situation changes in Europe (Poland). So many of top class players/coaches are using/searching for spark. Just because it got discontinued, people are selling it for good money and there are still plenty of people asking about it.

From MY point of view... I moved to Spark after over a year playing with Amultart and I can tell that my game improoved, gained control, my shots are spinnier and I am happy with it (second Spark ST should arrive at my place tomorrow, acording to the tracking number. Anyone more selling this blade?LOL)

I played for some time with blades like TBS/ALC, TBT500, Gergely, Sardius, Korbel and MANY other blades and if I had to choose once again I'd pick my Spark anytime.

Two blades which I will hunt for (testing purposes) are Innerforce AL and TB ZLF.
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i tried the tb zlf too and innerforce zlf

the zlf is a bit more muffled compared to the arylate

of course the IF felt more woody than the boll but dwell time on both blades are sufficient
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Originally posted by ejmeser ejmeser wrote:

I don't really understand why are you guys rating spark so low. Honestly, I have never seen anyone using this blade around me in Canada/US. Situation changes in Europe (Poland). So many of top class players/coaches are using/searching for spark. Just because it got discontinued, people are selling it for good money and there are still plenty of people asking about it.

From MY point of view... I moved to Spark after over a year playing with Amultart and I can tell that my game improoved, gained control, my shots are spinnier and I am happy with it (second Spark ST should arrive at my place tomorrow, acording to the tracking number. Anyone more selling this blade?LOL)

I played for some time with blades like TBS/ALC, TBT500, Gergely, Sardius, Korbel and MANY other blades and if I had to choose once again I'd pick my Spark anytime.

Two blades which I will hunt for (testing purposes) are Innerforce AL and TB ZLF.
 
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tried that too lol

it feels a bit more solid than the bazelart and spark but more dead. The IF AL feels a bit more lively

the L3 has similar characteristics but the wood used (unsure wood comp) is of lesser quality IMO than the butterfly blades.

its at 6.2 thickness vs the 5.9 on the IF AL
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Originally posted by mon22 mon22 wrote:

tried that too lol

it feels a bit more solid than the bazelart and spark but more dead. The IF AL feels a bit more lively

the L3 has similar characteristics but the wood used (unsure wood comp) is of lesser quality IMO than the butterfly blades.

its at 6.2 thickness vs the 5.9 on the IF AL
 
it cost alot less too. LOL  I still prefer the V-6.
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

it cost alot less too. LOL  I still prefer the V-6.
yep...now you're talking. It makes good $$$$ sense & save ma & pa some $$$$ for other worthy purposes. 
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