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    Posted: 10/11/2011 at 4:26pm
Which one is better for control and not too heavy? I plan to use H3 NEO both sides.
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hi,
 
about the weight the more safe choice is the intensity.
 
the more weight and i would say quality variation is about the eb V. depending on the batch the outer is harder and thicker and weight can be very different.
 
the 3 have good control if managed to handle. it takes time to get used to the hit spot and to the hollow handle. not so easy. in fact most chinese women use wrist band. the technique is not so standard about those blades.  


Edited by ejmaster - 10/11/2011 at 8:25pm
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Originally posted by ejmaster ejmaster wrote:

hi,
 
about the weight the more safe choice is the intensity.
 
the more weight and i would say quality variation is about the eb V. depending on the batch the outer is harder and thicker and weight can be very different.
 
the 3 have good control if managed to handle. it takes time to get used to the hit spot and to the hollow handle. not so easy. in fact most chinese women use wrist band. the technique is not so standard about those blades.  


whats wrist bands got to do with this?
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by ejmaster ejmaster wrote:

hi,
 
about the weight the more safe choice is the intensity.
 
the more weight and i would say quality variation is about the eb V. depending on the batch the outer is harder and thicker and weight can be very different.
 
the 3 have good control if managed to handle. it takes time to get used to the hit spot and to the hollow handle. not so easy. in fact most chinese women use wrist band. the technique is not so standard about those blades.  


whats wrist bands got to do with this?
 
those blades charge the wrist more than others. women wrist is less strong than men's.
 
ding ning, li xiaoxia, guo yue ... use ebv. feng tian wei, ... use rwv. they use wrist band. 
 
 


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based on paddle palace ratings Rosewood V is the slowest but the heaviest at 93grams.  Is this really true? For those with shakehand Rosewood what weights are your blades?
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Originally posted by stigatt stigatt wrote:

based on paddle palace ratings Rosewood V is the slowest but the heaviest at 93grams.  Is this really true? For those with shakehand Rosewood what weights are your blades?

Mine weighs 93.5 gr if I recall right, but a friend of mine has one which weighs 80 gr! That's a big difference...


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Originally posted by stigatt stigatt wrote:

based on paddle palace ratings Rosewood V is the slowest but the heaviest at 93grams.  Is this really true? For those with shakehand Rosewood what weights are your blades?
 
i do not see much difference in speed between the three rw, eb and intensity. the weight makes the blade more powerful but changes the balance more to the head.
 
my rwv is about 88 gr. it is a good weight. and i have an ebv with 95 gr. and other with 85 gr. and there is some difference in playing. the 95 gr. ebv has a little bit more speed than the rwv. however the 85 gr. ebv is +- the same or even slower than the more heavy weight rw v.


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I agree with ejmaster.  I have a rosewood v (86g) and an ebenholz v (87g) with Haifu BW2 red sponge on them.  They are extremely similar in speed.  I would say the rosewood has a slightly better short game. I think speed is very dependent on weight.  I have an offensive NCT that is 77 g and it is so slow.  BTW, I use cpen.
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does any of your Stiga blades feel hollow? It seems Stiga has a reputation for hollow feeling blades. 
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Define a hollow feel. Certainly the handles are hollow on most (all?) of them.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Define a hollow feel. Certainly the handles are hollow on most (all?) of them.

I think he means this dull or muted feeling the old Stigas were famous for.
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Ejmaster

I notice you've got the Ebenholz V in your signature. Is that the 95 gram blade or the 85 gram blade?

And I'm curious what rubber are you using on the forehand, as the abbreviation SGES is not one I'm familiar with?




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Hi Peter C,
 
I put the ebv* with an asterisc because this is a particular ebv. As many times within a range of blades one can find The blade. That is why one can never tell if a blade may be is the blade or not. sometimes have to be lucky with the one you get.
 
I had several ebv's and i always liked them but not enough to say this can be my main blade. however the last ebv i got (the 85 gr.) comes quite different. The outers are not so solid as the former ones and the building was more like a rwv. in fact it seems a rwv with an ebv outer.
 
it seems they have changed the ebv outer. former ones it was very dark wood and lot more solid what brings weight and different balance. i pay attention to the outer color and grain of some chinese women players and it seems like the last ebv one i have.
 
the result is that the blade with legend handle has a very good balance and very good feeling allowing to handle the blade very well.
 
at the same time i discovered the grip S europe soft what it is the best rubber i have test in this two years and suddenly this ebv with gses becomes a main set up. the good thing is that the gses is quite light. so overall i have a very good feeling blade with fast manouvering dynamics.
 
besides in these months i got more used to these range of stiga blades. they need some technique training. now the handling of the rwv is also quite better. it takes some time. 


Edited by ejmaster - 10/13/2011 at 8:23pm
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That is why one can never tell if a blade may be is the blade or not. sometimes have to be lucky with the one you get.

This is very true. Tough to get things made of wood to be identical.  I have owned a bunch of Bttfly Viscarias, which I think are fantastic blades, and they tend to be pretty well controlled in terms of one being pretty close to another -- more so than many other blades.  All the same, I have one that I like more than all of the others.
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