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Very nice. What's the difference between the two blades?
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Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

Very nice. What's the difference between the two blades?
Both blades use identical plies and differ only in the grain orientation of the core plies.  Frogger and I were interested in how a small difference would affect the character of the two blades blades.  Each blade has a core made up of 4 layers of 0.9mm obeche.  In blade #1, all the grain ran lengthwise - this would be closest to a solid core of 3.6mm.  In blade #2, the grain orientation of the center two plies was rotated to run side-to-side.  As expected, blade #2 had slightly more flex along its length and was slightly slower than #1.    As I recall, the difference between the blades was not great, but it was noticeable.  Frogger might be able to add to this comment.  He reviewed blade #1 here.
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Carryboy asked me to post a few photos of his latest blade.  Earlier, I had sent him a similar demo blade, and he was so enthusiastic about it that he commissioned the one below.  Based on his comments to me about the blade, I'll definitely be adding this composition to my lineup.   It's a 5-ply OFF blade with a western red cedar core, and medium/medium-hard anigre for the medial and outer plies.  The handle is orange agate and east indian rosewood.


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Originally posted by Ross Leidy Ross Leidy wrote:

Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

Very nice. What's the difference between the two blades?
Both blades use identical plies and differ only in the grain orientation of the core plies.  Frogger and I were interested in how a small difference would affect the character of the two blades blades.  Each blade has a core made up of 4 layers of 0.9mm obeche.  In blade #1, all the grain ran lengthwise - this would be closest to a solid core of 3.6mm.  In blade #2, the grain orientation of the center two plies was rotated to run side-to-side.  As expected, blade #2 had slightly more flex along its length and was slightly slower than #1.    As I recall, the difference between the blades was not great, but it was noticeable.  Frogger might be able to add to this comment.  He reviewed blade #1 here.
I must have missed that week....I don't remember seeing that thread at all. I'm just glad I found the other one.

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Thanks for posting Ross. 
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Originally posted by Ross Leidy Ross Leidy wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

This is beautiful work. What is the composition of Speedy's blade?
 
Thanks!  The composition is white limba - dyed red koto - black limba - kiri - black limba - dyed red koto - white limba.  Wow, I just now realized there's a lot of color adjectives in those plies!  :)


This is a great composition and great color combination (as you can see).  I saw a comment that someone said this is a stiff blade... well, not at all.  It's light and has a flex feel.  Perfect for looping from close to the table and mid-distance.  It has a feel of Innerforce ZLC and the speed between M. Maze and Timo Boll ZLF.  If you put a soft sponge rubber like T05 FX or T64, you will love it.  For short pips player like myself, I need to get a harder pips.  My pips are a little bit too slow for it.

BTW, I will work with Ross on a new combination.  It will be OFF to OFF+ with Balsa core.  I am looking forward to working on the next combination with him.  Stand by...
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Originally posted by Ross Leidy Ross Leidy wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Reading your posts I was wondering if you had kiri cores (could not read about it on your website) and I got my answer Smile
 
I only recently found a source for kiri, and I still need to update the website.
 
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I used to play the Mizutani Jun (one of the best offensive looping fast blades ever made) before I banned Butterfly from my tt life; this blade is close to it, the dyed red koto replacing the ZL carbon in the MJ composition (limba-zl carbon-limba-kiri-limba-zl carbon-limba). I might be next in line for a matching pair of those. Could a teak or paduk veneer do the same job than koto in the above blade composition?
 
Only Speedy has played this blade, so he might be able to compare it to the Mizutani Jun.  It does have a handle modeled directly from the ST Mizutani.  Speedy and I hashed out the composition over numerous emails, and in the end the blade didn't have quite the speed he was after.  An adjustment to the koto layer (switching it out for something harder) should bump it up a notch.  I currently do not have padauk veneer, but it is a possibility if it's a requirement.  Contact me offline if you'd like me to add you to the waiting list.


Like Ross mentioned, we had numerous emails going back and forth before we agree on a composition.  Before I compare to Mizutani, I have to say this first.  The reason I didn't get the speed that I want is because of me and had NOTHING to do with Ross.  Here is why.  I ask him to put a blade together with hardwood plies but the end product must be 85grams to 87grams.  It is almost impossible without using Balsa.  But, I didn't want to use Balsa core.  You might asked me why?  Well, because I was trying to make this blade similar to Mizutani and the speed between Viscaria and Mizutani.  So, at the end of the day, we actually got exactly what I designed for.  However, the feel is too good to be true.  Again why? Well, I am using pips and I thought that with 7-ply, it will be hard enough for my pips, but not really.  It feels so good that I could have use inverted rubbers on both sides.

Long story short, we got stuck with the dilemma: Weight vs. Speed, so I decided to go with weight and feel and sacrificed speed a little.  Basically, it came out exactly what we expected.

Now, I will tell you one thing I really like about Ross that he didn't mention.  During the design phase, I wanted a ST handle exactly like Mizutani.  Ross didn't have the router bits for the handle.  That's like a week before the Nationals.  He went out of his way and bought that router, finished the handle and the blade, sent the paddle to me, and I received the blade 2 days before the Nationals.  Just that alone, I would work with him any day.  This is why I took the blade for a test during my first match of the tournament.

Now, let me compare my blade to Mizutani Jun.  Here is the short version below:

Mizutani Jun

Plies: 3W+2 ZLCarbon (low throw)
Speed: 9+
Control: 7
Feel: 8
Comments:  This is a fast blade.  I used this for years.  This is a good blade if you want to end the rally quickly.

Leidy-Tran (7-ply) Thumbs Up

Plies: 7W (medium throw)
Speed: 8-
Control: 9
Feel: 9+
Comments:  This is a good control blade.  It's not good, it's GREAT.  It's not as fast as Mizutani Jun; however, it is very balanced.  Great feel on the ball.  Good for two wing loopers.  If you are looking for power from the blade, this is NOT for you.  If you are looking for consistent looping and counter-looping, this is a perfect blade.  If you have problem with blocking, this blade can also help you because it's very stable blade.

If you have any other questions, please post it on this thread so Ross and I can help to answer.

@Ross:  I will email you about our next adventure.  BTW, I hope that you don't mind... I named that blade as Leidy-Tran 7-Ply Wink

@All: Stand by for new blade with new combination.





Edited by speedy - 12/25/2011 at 9:44pm
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Originally posted by Ross Leidy Ross Leidy wrote:

Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

Very nice. What's the difference between the two blades?
Both blades use identical plies and differ only in the grain orientation of the core plies.  Frogger and I were interested in how a small difference would affect the character of the two blades blades.  Each blade has a core made up of 4 layers of 0.9mm obeche.  In blade #1, all the grain ran lengthwise - this would be closest to a solid core of 3.6mm.  In blade #2, the grain orientation of the center two plies was rotated to run side-to-side.  As expected, blade #2 had slightly more flex along its length and was slightly slower than #1.    As I recall, the difference between the blades was not great, but it was noticeable.  Frogger might be able to add to this comment.  He reviewed blade #1 here.
  
 
 Thanks Ross for reposting the pics of the two blades. Yes I liked blade #1 with the vertical grains. It felt like it had a tic more pop and was just slightly faster. Both blades felt identical in weight and both played like a dream. I feel blade #2 would be perfect for a controled looper as blade #1 is perfect for hitting with a supporting loop. I have never owned such an addicting blade and I have owned well over a hundred or so over the years.
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Is arylate-carbon blade available?
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Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

Is arylate-carbon blade available?
Sorry, but I'm not building any composite blades at this time.  Perhaps someday, but not in the immediate future.
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Ross doesn't need a mark, his blades are beautiful enough to distinguish from the rest.
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He could use different colour woods for those pieces at the end of the handle ; Like a very dark colour one side and light other side. That way it has a recognizable difference between both sides for fh and bh also without rubber.
Or for the griphalves with two dark and one light in the middle (post above on this page) reversed at one side ; two light, one dark.



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Originally posted by mercuur mercuur wrote:

He could use different colour woods for those pieces at the end of the handle ; Like a very dark colour one side and light other side. That way it has a recognizable difference between both sides for fh and bh also without rubber.
Or for the griphalves with two dark and one light in the middle (post above on this page) reversed at one side ; two light, one dark.

If you look closely at the handle gallery on his page, you can see that he did handles with different designs on fh and bh side. 
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Speedy - thanks for the generous reviews and for your willingness to give the blade a try at Nationals, no less.  Thumbs Up  I look forward to the next adventure.  
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Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

Originally posted by mercuur mercuur wrote:

He could use different colour woods for those pieces at the end of the handle ; Like a very dark colour one side and light other side. That way it has a recognizable difference between both sides for fh and bh also without rubber.
Or for the griphalves with two dark and one light in the middle (post above on this page) reversed at one side ; two light, one dark.

If you look closely at the handle gallery on his page, you can see that he did handles with different designs on fh and bh side. 

Mike's quite right.  Here's a photo of a blade with a slightly different FH/BH.  Because of the extra assembly time and fitting involved, I do charge extra for handles like this.  


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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by IanMcg IanMcg wrote:

Ross doesn't need a mark, his blades are beautiful enough to distinguish from the rest.
+1; nice thought. 
inversely, one can argue that they are so beautiful they deserve a serial number and a delivery date (when they leave the creator's shop). Such data could add value to the collector's beloved item.
We'll see what happens in the future; maybe Ross is just testing waters right now and will decide one day about an official launch of the "RL" brand with such serial numbers, dates itou but... maybe he does not care and just has fun making handcrafted blades.

I have thought about adding a serial number to the blades, but the only way that I've found that will result in a quality result is by laser engraving.  And, I don't have the budget for one of them quite yet.  :)

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Hmmm.....I got some money for Christmas...and I like how these blades are turning out....maybe I should get a custom?  Wink
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Originally posted by Ross Leidy Ross Leidy wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by IanMcg IanMcg wrote:

Ross doesn't need a mark, his blades are beautiful enough to distinguish from the rest.
+1; nice thought. 
inversely, one can argue that they are so beautiful they deserve a serial number and a delivery date (when they leave the creator's shop). Such data could add value to the collector's beloved item.
We'll see what happens in the future; maybe Ross is just testing waters right now and will decide one day about an official launch of the "RL" brand with such serial numbers, dates itou but... maybe he does not care and just has fun making handcrafted blades.

I have thought about adding a serial number to the blades, but the only way that I've found that will result in a quality result is by laser engraving.  And, I don't have the budget for one of them quite yet.  :)

How would the numbers would look if they were burnt....like a branding with a heated typeface?
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I have one of Mr. Leidys blades and it is awesome.  Mine is something like an Acoustic so it is very well balanced.  The fit and finish on these blades is outstanding .  I would recommend them to anyone looking for a quality blade.  Honestly for the quality of blade you get the price is very reasonable.  I would not worry about labels or serial numbers you know right away looking at the blades who built them there is nothing else on the market like them,not even close...  One last thing his customer service is second to none, he works with you every step of the way building you exactly what you want. Great experience .  
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I WILL own one of these blades in the near future when I get some funds. I've made the switch to All wood with my recent purchase of an Adidas V1.5, and have no desire to go back to composite layers.

Ross, I will be in contact with you soon. I have many qualities that would make my dream blade, I doubt it is even possible to make, but I'm convinced one of these will be the closest I'll get.
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Great! Just when I thought the Christmas spending was over you guys show me this! Angry

Now I must own one.

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Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

the composition came out of the email exchanges about likes, dislikes, must haves, etc.
I don't know the exact criteria right at this moment, but it was a combination of balance, weight, feel, stiffness and my "no balsa" clause; all together with a target speed range of ~All+.



"The blade composition is white obeche - anigre - kiri - anigre - white obeche."

Cant wait to hear how your new RL blade performs mmerkle.  What is the weight of that blade? 
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I own one of these.  I am glad that I ordered it.  You guys also need to see the case go with it.  Ross, you need to upload a picture of one of those too.
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Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

the composition came out of the email exchanges about likes, dislikes, must haves, etc.
I don't know the exact criteria right at this moment, but it was a combination of balance, weight, feel, stiffness and my "no balsa" clause; all together with a target speed range of ~All+.



"The blade composition is white obeche - anigre - kiri - anigre - white obeche."

Cant wait to hear how your new RL blade performs mmerkle.  What is the weight of that blade? 
It's just under 80g with a neutral to slight handle balance.
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Here is my custom Hurricane King shape and handle size which is the same as Latika spec.
The handle now need to be hollowed so that it's not handle heavy.








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Sotto voce with Mahogany is 87gr. I suppose it also depends of template and if Ross "empties" the handle as he did for mine. He did it so softly that I don't even notice it.
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I am also going to be getting one of these blades Big smile

And Peter79, what is the composition of your blade?

You said hurricane king, but that doesn't look like the koto on the website, unless I have the plies of the HK wrong.
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Originally posted by iliketurtles iliketurtles wrote:

I am also going to be getting one of these blades Big smile

And Peter79, what is the composition of your blade?

You said hurricane king, but that doesn't look like the koto on the website, unless I have the plies of the HK wrong.

Actual Hurricane King is:

Koto-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Koto

Since Spruce isn't available, Ross offer me to use Alaskan yellow Cheddar which has similar hardness with Spruce.
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So it's koto-ayc-ayous-ayc-koto?

I was actually referring to the top veneer, as it isn't the red koto that Ross has on his site.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Sotto voce with Mahogany is 87gr. I suppose it also depends of template and if Ross "empties" the handle as he did for mine. He did it so softly that I don't even notice it.
 
That's my ideal weight!!! is the balance of your blade even? a bit head heavy?
 
My feeling is all high performance rubbers now are close to or over 50 grams cut so a bit handle heavy a blade can help to get a balanced final setup.
 
I am still debating over asking , when I order, a hollow handle or not because of that idea.

jcdi is quite right - the final weight depends on the size of the blade template that I use.  Unless requested otherwise, I aim for a neutral balance where the balance point is near the center point of the overall length.  I control the balance by the weight of the handle pieces, and will usually have to hollow them to achieve the balance.  If you have a specific target weight in mind, then I ignore balance and fine-tune the handle weight to hit the specified weight.  
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