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Is there a rubber that has most characteristics of T64 but is a bit slower? 


Thoughts please.
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Lazy answer - T64-fx.
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shark II rs might be worth trying.
generally my advice if you find your equipment too fast is change the blade not the rubbers
slow blade + fast rubbers is better than fast blade + slow rubbers
if you are already using say an off- blade and you still have problems then just train, you are in a zone where you have to do the work, equipment doesn't have magical solutions.


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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Lazy answer - T64-fx.

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NO. 

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Tenergy 64 Red 2.1

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I feel you man... I'm also looking for a slower T64. I'd like more people to post in this thread!
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Yes, I'm playing with it right now.  It's called..........

1 yr old sheet of Tenergy 64!  Carefully aged in a temperature controlled environment outside of direct light (my TT bag).  Frequently massaged through club play a few times a week to keep it lively with a hint of smokiness (wait, what?).

I've thought about getting a new sheet but I think I'm better off saving the money and working on technique.
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1.9mm tenergy 64
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Is there a rubber that has most characteristics of T64 but is a bit slower? 


Thoughts please.

 
T64-fx is marketed as a slightly slower/more controlled T64, and so is the perfect answer to your vaguely-worded question, regardless of your spanner-shaped answer.
 
When you say "characteristics", what do you mean?  Speed?  Spin?  Cost?  Feel?  Taste when eaten between two slices of bread?  Feel on your skin when slapped across your face?
 
Your question has been asked many, many times before.  Have you bothered to use the search function?
 
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Originally posted by sa01 sa01 wrote:

shark II rs might be worth trying.
generally my advice if you find your equipment too fast is change the blade not the rubbers
slow blade + fast rubbers is better than fast blade + slow rubbers
if you are already using say an off- blade and you still have problems then just train, you are in a zone where you have to do the work, equipment doesn't have magical solutions.

This is pretty much it.

I'd like to add though that the soft version of Shark II might be a closer fit than medium or hard.  I also think that the softer versions of the Galaxy Moon(37 or lower) should also fit pretty well here with a lower throw.  Nothing "feels" like a Tenergy.
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BW2 RS medium is closer to a worn out T05. The topsheet of Shark2 RS is much softer than the topsheet of T05, by 10 d maybe.
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Just use 1.9mm and if you still can't control it then use 1.7mm on the next sheet. 1.9 alone will see you improve straight away compared to max sponge
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1.9 is 1 option,if thats still too fast leave it off the blade and let it shrink a bit,make sure you cut it bigger than the blade to begin with,maybe 1/2 cm all round when you stick it on,this happened to mine when i was transfering from blade to blade for testing and i like it better now,still fast and spinny
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I have been on a similar search in the past.
 
The "too fast" characteristic of T64 for me was not in the topspinning part of the game but in service return and touch shots. The top sheet is very reactive and the sponge catapults the ball strongly at slow speeds making control difficult. Once hitting harder, no problems.
 
If this is the area in which you are looking to improve your rubber choice, the best I have found so far is Roxon 450. Easier to use at slow speeds, similar speed and spin when hitting, similar hardness, similar throw angle. And it's a bit lighter, cheaper, less durability.
 
Using a 1.9mm thickness in T64 will only help a tiny bit with the bouncy nature on the short game, but will add a lot of control when counter topspinning the ball.
 
Hope this helps.


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