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perhaps my prodding provoked Xiom to release the blades? (joke)

I also see that www.tabletennis11.com has them listed now

carmelomaf, did they have the shirt in your size? 


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Originally posted by melarimsa melarimsa wrote:

I do NOT like the look at all Unhappy

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On the contrary they look cool...must be superb blades perhaps there will be sy who share his experience.

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Post to tag this thread because I'd like to hear input.

Also, I will do a review of the Z+ that I purchased from Mr. Fatt... perhaps here, or elsewhere if he prefers.

I tried it briefly and was very impressed, but my impressions were slightly confounded because I was not using my main rubbers. 

I have purchased (and am awaiting) my primary rubbers to put on this blade before I give a "proper" review. 

I will say right off the bat, though: I was impressed with the sharp feel and the quickness of the blade despite how thin it is (especially compared to my NR-70s). 

More to come...


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Why you just dont get another mj instead of wasting your money on a bunch of blades
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V interesting. 

I wish they made this Hayabusa line 157x150. 158x152 might make the setup a bit heavy and head-heavy for my taste especially with the heavier new-gen rubbers.


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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:


I am happy I found this document:

That's nice and saves a lot of loading time: the XIOM web site is just too bloated.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

ZXi composition from http://www.ttbdb.com

XiomHayabusa ZXi7
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83.5g
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5.7mmOff+KotoZephylium CarbonAyousKiri
CORE
AyousZephylium CarbonKoto

Kiri core like MJ
Koto outer like TB ZLC
Zephylium Carbon right behind outer like mj (innerforce go home!)

At 5.7mm and under 84 gr I think I am getting close to the graal. 

I am happy I found this document:

That seems like a great composition... though I'm not entirely sure what "Zephylium" is. They called the zylon "zylon" in the Zetro Quad so I would guess that the Zephylium is a different substance... but who knows.

I'm very interested to hear how it plays. 

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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

also they are made by the moths.

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Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

 
That seems like a great composition... though I'm not entirely sure what "Zephylium" is. They called the zylon "zylon" in the Zetro Quad so I would guess that the Zephylium is a different substance... but who knows.



Zephylium appears to be a proprietary name for the polymer they are using.  Zylon is a fabric that was a precursor to Kevlar in body armor.  

This series is interesting, but I sure like the hinoki on the Zetro.  Smile
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I finally got a chance to hit with my Hayabusa Z+ I purchased from fatt.

It is a FL handle and weighs (if I remember correctly) 84.6g. With my rubbers on it (TopENERGY Soft, max, and Renanos Hold, 1.9mm) it weighs a light 176g. 

Compared to my regular setup (see sig), it was ever so slightly head heavy. And I mean slightly. Not nearly as pronounced as my Carbo 7.6 but more so than my NR-70. TopENERGY Soft is a pretty heavy rubber (in the BWII black sponge range) so I'm quite confident that with "normal" weighted Tensors this blade would be even better balanced. And again, it's not bad to begin with, just noticeable. 

Despite the minor head heaviness, it's overall weight is less than my main setup by almost 10g. So I felt much more maneuverable with this setup, like I was playing with a wakizashi rather than with a katana Wink. The blade also has a nice feel upon contact. It feels a lot like an all-wood blade with sharp feedback from the koto. The vibration is crisp but it is very short-lived. 

It is quick for how thin it is, although it is not as fast as my NR-70. Normally I prefer ST handles. Although I was excited by the fact that this particular FL handle felt nice in my hand, upon playing with it I realized I wasn't nearly as comfortable as I'd hoped to be. This FL is about the size of a Stiga Master FL. Not smaller, but not much bigger if at all. Without it filling my hand like my regular ST, I felt like the blade was unstable in my hand. This is no fault of the blade but simply my own preference... but it may have tainted my review in general. Hopefully not. 

Keeping serves and drop shots low were no problem. This is not a bouncy blade at all. Looping and hitting had very good speed. However, I think this blade matches better with Japanese (and presumably Euro) rubbers, as I liked my backhand with this blade much more than my forehand. While the speed was good, the spin was a bit diminished compared to my NR-70. It wasn't a ton worse but it was noticeable enough that all three of my training partners made comments about it. I should add though that I was using a new sheet of hard, tacky rubber which often requires some time to break in, so the spin may be there at a future date. 

I do like this blade, but it's not love at first sight. It performs very, very well. I will continue to toy with it in my spare time, but for me and my game it does not perform as well as my NR-70. I am grateful to fatt for putting it in my hands and I plan to add more observations to this thread in the future. It may eventually make it to the For Sale section... but not quite yet. Smile


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Honestly, I don't care how this blade plays, I just want one to stare at all day. I know the graphics aren't for everyone but look at that handle, and the detail on the handle tag!

Xiom is really stepping up their game. A good medium stiffness, medium softness looping blade in their lineup (like the TBS) could propel them beyond the ranks of Stiga or Donic rather quickly.


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Good gods, fatt... That is a sexy blade.

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Thats one nice lookin blade....Daddy Likey
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@fatt...
wow...Shocked & cool & cute Cool HahyahBoosa...
Nice graphic, quite thin & kinda a bit over-saturated on its face & everything...Lotta nice things you said about it, ermm...just as you did to other past beauties as well...
Wonder how long you would keep & play w/ this "The One"....
I'll start my waiting-by-the-fence, right now.....here on this side of the border.
EJ bugs are still contagious, eh?Big smile
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

@fatt...
wow...Shocked & cool & cute Cool HahyahBoosa...
Nice graphic, quite thin & kinda a bit over-saturated on its face & everything...Lotta nice things you said about it, ermm...just as you did to other past beauties as well...
Wonder how long you would keep & play w/ this "The One"....
I'll start my waiting-by-the-fence, right now.....here on this side of the border.
EJ bugs are still contagious, eh?Big smile
 
He's waiting for my Photino. LOL
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hahyah....
just realized that this Xiom offers more varieties or models than my favorite Toyota Camry's or Honda Accords.
I'd stick to my Photino & play/live happily ever after......
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

you should have added: "...'till I come around a photino light AN".
LOL good 1 & you got me there.....
Really, too many models of that HoorayBoosah & What'veYou...Too overwhelming, over-bloating with fine graphics, nos., data, details & colors...
We ain't got no time for those things, just go out & play, man...
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

no more blades; maybe another used hayabusa zxi. but 1st I need to spend time with this one. too many times I thought I had found the one but buying right away the matching pair always ended up as money savings; for the next buyer indeed.

Taking everything you said into account,  sounds like you need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

......need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile
spare 1 for ermmmm....may be...cheap?LOL
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

......need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile
spare 1 for ermmmm....may be...cheap?LOL

Go check with Santa. Wink
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Go check with Santa. Wink
ok..you go check (w/her?) & I wait here....LOL
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I loved the Zetro Quad very much but they are rare under 90 grams. My h-zxi is under 84 grams so it seems those will never get over 88 grams (just an intuition) and that getting one around 85 grams will be easy. in addition to the composition and beauty of the blade that's the main reason I decided to give it a go.

Does the slight increase in head size vs the Zetro make their overall weights roughly the same?

On the scale post, I bet your scale is just just rounding up.  Great looking blade, looking forward to learning more about it.
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i just got this bad boy... Xiom Hayabusa Z+   IT IS AWESOME....  very fast and solid feeling... 

I have tried different rubbers on it... and man oh man... with the Acuda S2... its like a rocket ship..

I also tried the Nittaku Hammond Pro B and wow..the control is sooo nice...   Love the new blade... very impressed...   i sure my wife doesn't notice this new blade....   "another one"   
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The EJ era is over for good.  ZXi with Bluefires are the ultimate choice for me .
Power , elegance, speed and precision of a hunting falcon .  Big smile


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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

The Zxi is still softer than the TBS and MJ; speed in the high OFF but not crazy fast at all. That Zephylium is really special; it dampens and distributes all vibrations evenly everywhere so the feel is so smoother; not so much softer but much more even and clearer. 
This blade is such a winner; here with bf m2 and mark v m2, both in 2.0.
The 91 grams worth of rubbers make the setup slightly head heavy (83.5gr blade). Since the handle is thin (it reminds me the Cofferlait handle) I beefed it up with Wilson leatherette tennis grip and the balance is close to perfect now with 4 more grams at the handle level.




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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

are your M2 and M3 are both MAX (the 198gr seems super high)? what is the weight of your blade?

Well, I must admit I forgot to weigh it before putting on the grip. So it weighs102 gramms with the grip.
Not an easy combo but much shorter arm movements are enough to carry out your shots.
Anyway, I use 2 mm rubbers.
Oh , yes and two layers of XIOM sealant are applied.


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What about the announced "sharp and clear vibrations"?
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