Joola RHYZM review!

assiduous wrote: how long does it take to receive from there? Ordered aug 20, still waiting..

I got mine within a week.  Was pretty disappointed with the rubber but I think Baracuda has spoiled me and I need to relearn how to play with hard rubbers.

Rhyzm was definitely a disappointment for me. It lacks power, Sigma Pro r Bluefire M1 are a lot better.

i am still waiting for my rubbers and no reply to my emails : (

i don't want to resort to paypal before i hear from them, and paypal wants something like 45 days or something. He has good prices, its a shame that he doesn't ship or at least reply 

assiduous wrote: i just got a reply that its shipped and should arrive soon. A bit tardy, but as long as it gets here and it's not fake its a good deal :) By the way, Rhyzm is very different from baracuda, but for the better, if you are good :) I know exactly why your impression was like that. Baracuda throws the ball up so easy and is very spiny. But it has a weird throw and not very good control. With Rhyzm you need to make better contact with the ball. You can't just touch brush it and throw it up. Now you need to open the paddle a little and not be afraid to go through the ball and follow through.  But you need to do that kind of stroke on high level anyway. This brushing with baracuda makes for very soft loops that get you killed on high level. You need to make good contact, put a lot of power and have good control so you can place it well. And Rhyzm is one of the best rubbers for that.

Not just on the high level, at any level.  I played a guy yesterday who I usually play at the club and his first complaint was that he couldn't see the ball anymore and that I was hitting it too hard at him.  I'm going to give Rhyzm at least a month before making any changes - if it works, I'll probably sell all my other rubbers.

The rubber is difficult to use on the backhand though, because the sponge is kind of hard and it catapults the ball out very quickly and you get very little dwell time on soft shots. On the FH i never had any problems because i swing hard and the ball dives deep in the sponge and makes a great bite and feel, but on BH i felt my T05 allowed me to open loop easier. If you have a good BH which makes good contact and goes through the ball you may be able to use it, but my BH loops tend to be soft and kind of brushy.. and with Rhyzm the ball just doesn't stay on my paddle. Even Tenzone is better for FH, much better actually.

Edited by assiduous - 09/17/2012 at 7:11pm

assiduous wrote: The rubber is difficult to use on the backhand though, because the sponge is kind of hard and it catapults the ball out very quickly and you get very little dwell time on soft shots. On the FH i never had any problems because i swing hard and the ball dives deep in the sponge and makes a great bite and feel, but on BH i felt my T05 allowed me to open loop easier. If you have a good BH which makes good contact and goes through the ball you may be able to use it, but my BH loops tend to be soft and kind of brushy.. and with Rhyzm the ball just doesn't stay on my paddle. Even Tenzone is better for FH, much better actually. But I am putting Rhyzm on the FH of both my main paddles. I want to develop my FH to look smth like Ma Long - a lot of power and good placement and consistency. I don't want to mess around with those brushy spiny loops.. it just doesn't work on high level. Even my BH i want to make flatter with more power, but it's harder because of the mechanics of the stroke..

Actually, power on my backhand for me is easier because the wrist lets me do it all.   That's why for me, the choice of rubber on my backhand has almost never mattered.  I've often wondered whether I should incorporate more wrist on my forehand.

Well, earlier I wrote it was a disappointment for me. I have to rectify myself, a disappointment in max even when it is boosted let alone when not.

I got round to having some hits with a 2.0 (48 degrees) and it is a lot better. It is true that it is very hard but in my opinion the cause of the hardness is in the topsheet. And that describes the difference to the likes of Bluefire or Sigma Pro. Rhyzm 48 has a sponge that is similar to Aurus, not the usual ESN type. While M1 or M2 uses the cooperation of the sponge and the topsheet to produce spin and speed, the  Rhyzm 48 topsheet sort of lives a separate life and the spin comes more from the topsheet and the speed from the sponge.

The way Rhyzm works is closer to me (as it feels more natural) but they have not managed to strike a balance between the hardness and control - it is too hard overall and I find M1 or Sigma Pro more usable and versatile.

To sum up, Sigma or M1 has better control, dwell and a bit better feel, Rhyzm is more rigid with less dwell. I hope this issue will be sorted now that we have Rhyzm 42.5. I planned on buying on earlier but there is a Xiom Muse coming my way

When tuned, Rhyzm is a bit faster than Sigma Pro and makes it possible to use shorter strokes and more forward motion. The spin on loops is better on the Sigma or M1.

Rhyzm 48 vs M2: the differences I described above are even more tangible. M2 is more of a "vary the spin and pace" type of rubber and Rhyzm is more direct.

I had a league match this evening with some interesting results.

I used my Xiom Sigma Pros tuned and they failed when I had to play touch shots. Somehow their relatively soft topsheet (compared to Joola Rhyzm) did not work when I had to play soft balls over tha table. There is a fragment of a second the ball needs to sink in the sponge to produce a good effect.

In comparison, Rhyzm has a harder topsheetwhich might work better for these kind of shots. I will test tomorrow but it seems that Xiom Sigma Pro type of rubbers seem to be a bit spinnier than Rhyzm 48 (I am talking about these boosted) but with Rhyzm you can play more naturally (the harder tospheet helps you spin weak balls and lifts a bit better)

Test tomorrow

I have a 425 2.0 black on the way as fh rubber.Bh is rasant 1.7 on a virtuoso -S (93 grams)

My sheet is heavier than T64. Very noticeably heavier.

This is for me the most underrated rubber that I have ever used.  Durable, excellent control, excellent throw.  The usual complaint is that it is bouncy, but I find it easier to control than T05 in the short game.  I sometimes wonder whether T80 will just be like it, hence I want to know how the softer versions play.  Also looking at H3 Prov, as the throw is similar to Rhyzm, though the control seems better on loops.

Seems so. Otherwise I cannot explain the fast evaporation of the tuning effect.

I liked it very much on a Donic Off blade without tuning, so ordered one, but the dealer tuned it. I would avoid tuning the next one.

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