Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - BBC Clan (chat, reviews, etc)
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

megaspin.net
Forum Home Forum Home > Equipment > Equipment

BBC Clan (chat, reviews, etc)

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: BBC Clan (chat, reviews, etc)
    Posted: 03/14/2012 at 11:43am
This one will be dedicated to BBC brand which is also known to some of us as good old Charlie W. Smith, blade master extraordinaire

Website: www.bladesbycharlie.com

Reviews:

Fiddler

9-10-9

All-Around

1-Ply Cypress

Triflex Carbon

Anvil

Custom models:

Ultima

Ultima Plus

All-Around Obeche-Ayous

All-Around Black Walnut

2-CarboFlex

Oversized Fiddler 3-ply #1, #2

Custom Hardbat by BBC

Some chat:

Where's Charlie?

Original tester thread

general discussion

Please feel free to drop a line, to ask a question or to share your opinions on BBC and Charlie's blades.
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 1:05pm
Jimt, Charlie really needs to update his site!!!! About a year and a half ago we heard of a couple of new blades and concepts floating around this forum and then nothing. 
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
nathanso View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/22/2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 351
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nathanso Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 1:13pm
40

Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 1:20pm
Wow!!! that is impressive nathanso. Yes 40 big onesSmile
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
mhnh007 View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/17/2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mhnh007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 2:28pm
I have the All Around with Attack2 shape and Flared handle.   The blade is so balance, and the handle is big enough for my hand, and longer and any blade that I own.  I think with Attack1 shape, the handle is even longer, so unless you have extra large hand, you don't need to order the extra long handle.  I love BBC so much that I am in the process of getting Charlie to build me another All Around, but with 7-plies (W-O-3-ply-O-W).  Charlie is building 1 right now, but he wants to test it first hand, and see if it's not too heavy, and playable, before he let me order one Smile.
Back to Top
the_theologian View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/11/2009
Location: U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_theologian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 2:54pm
hip hip, hooray for Charlie! ClapPartyThumbs Up
 
... a great blade maker and a swell guy.
 
Thanks Charlie!
 
p.s. sign me up in the BBC Clan as a 9-10-9 user. I'll post pics of my new one which is being made at this time.
Maxxx 400 - IF ZLC ST - Maxxx 400
Back to Top
VictorK View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/08/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 407
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VictorK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 5:21pm
I "test drove" few of BBC blades in the past and have been thoroughly impressed with the quality of the quality and workmanship, as well as with Charlie personally. 

Too bad that the blades I tried didn't fit my preferences for an OFF/OFF- carbon blade that is relatively flexible, so it provides an equal balance between looping and hitting/blocking game .... until recently, when I received a prototype of his 7-7-7 blade utilizing thin ("1K") carbon, which appears to fit that bill perfectly, and I suspect it could become a real winner for Charlie, if he decides to to insert this model into his product lineup.


99% practice
1% equipment
0% ratings
Back to Top
koshkin View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 10/30/2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 166
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 5:34pm
I just went through a rather lengthy trial and error process with Charlie (Charlie's trials and my errors for the most part) which resulted in a perfect blade for me, of which I now have two.

Perhaps, I should dig through the e-mails I sent Charlie with my feedback on all the blades I tested in the process and post them here.

ILya
1970s Stiga Allround Begtsson

BH: changes daily
FH: Tenergy 80, 2.1
Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 5:40pm
That would be very interesting
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I just went through a rather lengthy trial and error process with Charlie (Charlie's trials and my errors for the most part) which resulted in a perfect blade for me, of which I now have two.

Perhaps, I should dig through the e-mails I sent Charlie with my feedback on all the blades I tested in the process and post them here.

ILya


Ilya, could you decipher the name 3-P-F HD of your blade? Thanks, man!
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by nathanso nathanso wrote:

40



OMG... going green with envy Cry

You crazy crazy collector... and lucky bastard at that! Big smile
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by Carryboy Carryboy wrote:

Jimt, Charlie really needs to update his site!!!! About a year and a half ago we heard of a couple of new blades and concepts floating around this forum and then nothing. 


That is true - but remember that

a) Charlie himself is not a webmaster
b) hiring someone to maintain the site would probably kill any glimpse of hope for BBC to be profitable
c) I'd rather have Charlie work on (my!) blades than read up on Java/HTML etc and rebuild his website

But there is still hope that some crazy enthusiast will donate his time to help Charlie and his fans...
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

I "test drove" few of BBC blades in the past and have been thoroughly impressed with the quality of the quality and workmanship, as well as with Charlie personally. 

Too bad that the blades I tried didn't fit my preferences for an OFF/OFF- carbon blade that is relatively flexible, so it provides an equal balance between looping and hitting/blocking game .... until recently, when I received a prototype of his 7-7-7 blade utilizing thin ("1K") carbon, which appears to fit that bill perfectly, and I suspect it could become a real winner for Charlie, if he decides to to insert this model into his product lineup.



Here's us hoping you will write a review for Triple Seven (BBC Jackpot?).  Also I hope to see you in ten days at Westchester Open so you can show me your new BBC blade... deal?
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
the_theologian View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/11/2009
Location: U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_theologian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 6:34pm
I'm also wondering what the 3-P-F HD is Smile
 
Charlie mentioned to me a couple months ago that he was getting help on updating the website, so who knows! I'd love to see an upgrade, but like JimT, I'm content to have him working on my quirky requests
 
btw JimT, thanks for getting this thread going and organizing the nice layout of the intial post!
Maxxx 400 - IF ZLC ST - Maxxx 400
Back to Top
qpskfec View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07/28/2011
Status: Offline
Points: 61
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qpskfec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/14/2012 at 9:08pm
I have a skinny Triflex and an All Around. Both play great.

Charlie made the handles exactly to my dimensions. Workmanship is excellent.

I have a 9-9-9 coming in the mail.
Back to Top
VictorK View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/08/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 407
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VictorK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/15/2012 at 9:20am
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Here's us hoping you will write a review for Triple Seven (BBC Jackpot?).  Also I hope to see you in ten days at Westchester Open so you can show me your new BBC blade... deal?



I'm really a low-level "equipment reviewer" - I go more by how I can play my game using a particular blade/rubber combination.  Having said so, let me give you some additional feedback:

I believe (not 100% sure) the 7-7-7 blade is built with three layers of cypress and two layers of micro-carbon.
  Apparently the cypress used in this blade is denser than the one in 9-10-9 and other BBC blades.  Also, the blade's head is slightly bigger than average.

I use Tibhar Aurus (regular) 2.1 mm on FH and 1.9 mm on BH.


Overall, it’s one of the best balanced carbon blades I've ever tried in that it balances looping and hitting/blocking performance fairly well.
  It’s relatively fast, but predictable (for me at least) in both short game, as well as away from the table.

The feel is solid (rather than hollow), and on the stiffer side (but not too stiff) - somewhat similar feel to 7 ply wood blades. Despite not being super flexible, the blade has more than decent rebound and nice vibration/feedback going into the handle.


Short game is solid and predictable, but not spectacular … I guess this is what one would expect from an OFF carbon blade.
  Interestingly, on touch shots, 7-7-7 feels a little bit more like a stiffer all wood blade (e.g. Clipper) than carbon, perhaps because the carbon layers are very thin and buried deep underneath a relatively thick outer ply.

Blocking, driving and hitting are very solid, accurate and predictable.


Lifting underspin isn't effortless, but it isn't a big chore either.
   One just needs to focus on proper brushing contact, otherwise the ball has a tendency to go long, since the blade is quite dynamic.

7-7-7 really shines away from the table.
  Power shots are outstanding, especially counter loops away from the table, where it feels like the harder you hit the ball the more likely it is to land.  Lobbing and fishing is outstanding as well.

I hope this helps.


Regarding the name, I like “BBC Jackpot” … though, perhaps given the presence of three 7’s in the prototype's name, we should change it to “BBC Lucky Jackpot”


JimT - I’m planning to be playing in the Westchester tournament on 3/25, and I’ll be more than happy to show and let you test drive the blade.

99% practice
1% equipment
0% ratings
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/15/2012 at 12:08pm
"Lucky" is not necessary here, as Jackpot already means the win... but that's up to you of course.

What is the weight of the blade, btw?

See you at the tourney!
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
VictorK View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/08/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 407
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VictorK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/15/2012 at 5:01pm
If I recall correctly 85g is written on the blade, but I'm not 100% sure.   I'll let check next time I remove rubbers from it and will let you know then.

99% practice
1% equipment
0% ratings
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/15/2012 at 8:46pm
Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

If I recall correctly 85g is written on the blade, but I'm not 100% sure.   I'll let check next time I remove rubbers from it and will let you know then.


Nah you don't have to do that - my interest in the weight is purely academic.
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/16/2012 at 12:01am
I have a tricarbon which is the review sample above and also a anvil which I have never played with (brand new). The tricarbon has one of the best flared handles ever.
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/24/2012 at 4:14pm
I got a chance yesterday to take a couple of pictures of my BBC Tricarbon to post.

I believe it is Attack shape I, thickness is 6.5mm, Weight 71 grams












Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/25/2012 at 12:55pm
Just got two new BBC blades - One-Ply Cypress (I would really love for it to have a cooler name but then again, why do I care) and Ultima Speed (a variation of my main blade Ultima and of 9-10-9 - this one has 6-17-6 structure, meaning that outer WRC plies are 60 thou thick = 1.5 mm, then carbon layer, then central core WRC layer which is 170 thou thick = 4.25 mm).

Will post some photos and reviews soon.
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/25/2012 at 4:13pm
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
Carryboy View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/12/2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 707
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carryboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/25/2012 at 5:03pm
Nice JimT I like the Ultima Speed and the BBC metal tags look nice not that anything was wrong with the original wood engraved logo which I do like very much.
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Bluefire JP 01 Max/Acuda S1 Turbo Max
Donic Coppa X3 Silver 2.0mm

Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/25/2012 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by Carryboy Carryboy wrote:

Nice JimT I like the Ultima Speed and the BBC metal tags look nice not that anything was wrong with the original wood engraved logo which I do like very much.


Alas, those are simple sticker labels - Charlie temporarily ran out of wooden "buttons"
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
the_theologian View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/11/2009
Location: U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_theologian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/26/2012 at 5:15am
very, very nice blades JimT... making me want a 1 ply from CW
Maxxx 400 - IF ZLC ST - Maxxx 400
Back to Top
Brainstorm69 View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/01/2007
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 921
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brainstorm69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/26/2012 at 10:22am
Sweet looking blades for sure. Thumbs Up
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/26/2012 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

very, very nice blades JimT... making me want a 1 ply from CW


Wait until I play with it. I intend to seal them both on Monday (can with Minwax sealant is in my office, so...), then put the rubbers on them on Tuesday - play on Wed-Thu - then I will start the review threads.
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
the_theologian View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/11/2009
Location: U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_theologian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/26/2012 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

very, very nice blades JimT... making me want a 1 ply from CW


Wait until I play with it. I intend to seal them both on Monday (can with Minwax sealant is in my office, so...), then put the rubbers on them on Tuesday - play on Wed-Thu - then I will start the review threads.
you're still not a believer that Charlie is sealing them?! Wink
Maxxx 400 - IF ZLC ST - Maxxx 400
Back to Top
JimT View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: 10/26/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13201
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/26/2012 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

very, very nice blades JimT... making me want a 1 ply from CW


Wait until I play with it. I intend to seal them both on Monday (can with Minwax sealant is in my office, so...), then put the rubbers on them on Tuesday - play on Wed-Thu - then I will start the review threads.
you're still not a believer that Charlie is sealing them?! Wink


I still seal them a  bit myself as well...
Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.187 seconds.
Mark all posts as read :: Delete cookies set by this forum

Cookies and JavaScript must be enabled on your web browser in order to use this forum


Copyright © 2003-2013 MyTableTennis.NET - All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer