Handles with old tags?

 this is something i've really wanted to ask about now. what is with everybody getting so hyped up over these so called old handles, old tags whatever it is.  i've seen this trend a lot recently and cant understand why someone would pay such a significantly higher price for these old tags that nobody sees or cares about

liulin04 wrote: the old tags (previous generations) are much better than the new tags (newer generations).  The characteristics and the quality of the old is much superior to the new.  New ones tend to cut corners to maximize profits.  That's why sometimes the new ones have splinters or lousy quality compared to their predecessors.

liulin04 wrote: i should've began with "In my opinion, ..."

I think the Old/New problem is mostly with STIGA blades. They used to be handmade in Hungary I believe but now they are made in Sweden at the factory YASAKA used to have blades manufactured at

with butterfly at least it makes no sense.
they had the old logo until a couple of years ago.
it's not possible that they suddenly changed all their production procedure, quality of materials, etc.
if you were talking about 20 or 30 year old blades maybe there could be a difference in the way they produce it.
but it's almost impossible to prove.
also blades tend to change their feeling with time and use so that probably has a lot to do, maybe more than any difference in the way they produce the blades.
even more, every blade is different, even if produced today. due to different wood, etc.

I have an old banda dacota (like 15 years old or more) and it feels different to any other blade I played.
I think a major part is the age of the blade, as well as having been played a long time and glued so many times (remember until a couple of years ago people used to speed glue).


Edited by sa01 - 04/21/2012 at 3:21am

Supposedly the older wood supply is better than the newer supply. 

king_pong wrote: Peter C wrote:   Your comment about Stiga blades being produced in Hungary is incorrect. Stiga originally produced blades at Woodhouse AB and that factory is still producing blades today; albeit for other manufacturers like Avalox and Yasaka. Current Stiga production is done at their newer plant; which isn't too far away from Woodhouse AB. Correct.  Also, Donic's "Swedish Construction" blades are also manufactured at Woodhouse AB, as well as select Nittaku blades (those that feature the, "Made in Sweden", on the lens).  Woodhouse AB is located in Tranås, Sweden.  Check your old Stiga lenses -- Alsers, Johanssons, Bengtssons, "Tickan"s, Lindh's, etc.  Those will say "Made in Tranås", if they are early 90's and earlier.  I don't know when Stiga stopped putting "Made in Tranås" in their lenses  (Anyone?) Stiga blades, are produced 220km away in Eskilstuna, Sweden.  Eskiltuna is home to Bengt Bandstigen, who founded Banda Blades (remember those?).  Banda was the blade that Waldner chose to play with, and popularized in the 80's-early 90's.  Banda purchased Stiga Sports AB in 1984 and moved operations, and many good blade technicians, from Tranås to Eskilstuna.  Today Stiga Sports AB is run by Bengt Bandstigen's son, Mats Bandstigen.   Stiga --> Yasaka = Woodhouse AB (Tranås, Sweden) Banda --> Stiga = Stiga AB -> (Eskilstuna, Sweden)

so banda bought stiga???
I thought stiga was 10 times bigger than banda, in any case stiga would buy banda.

as i know, change from old tag to new tag , because BTY , they change their CEO from old generation to new generation.... for the wood characteristics and quality are the same .... just a  little bit difference in weight and feeling.

Moved to Equipment Forum.

Please do not post Equipment specific threads in the General Forum.

well...here is my take on this "collector &/or players who train hard & what have you thing kinda threads/things"....
My older bro-in-law has 2 or may be more OLD Rolex watches, one he wears everyday & treats it  like a working horse & the others as "collectibles", good for him to look at/admire whenever he chooses to/feels like. Do I see or does anyone see anything wrong with that?
I don't think so...
There's no need to blah blah blah keep on ranting about playing hard, pushing to the limit & let the collectors collect kinda thing on & on......

raphyelrosby wrote: I am merely posting my opinion, as have many others on this thread. I am a scientist, a classically trained biologist, and I think in terms of hypotheses and testing them. To make a statement to newer players that the older blades are better or play better is a real disservice to them.

True, no problem w/ that statement at all, I don't need to be a Scientist or Engineer to figure that out. However, to some people, knowing the blade he's using/holding is a "Classic" or "Old model/gem/rare pc. of/1 of a kind" make help them feel good & who knows, might make them play better or excel in a particular day/game. It's in their head or a psychological thing, right? It could also go the other way, as they might think, oh..this is a classic oldie & I gotta careful or else....their games then go shxty....

tiehwen wrote: raphyelrosby wrote: I am merely posting my opinion, as have many others on this thread. I am a scientist, a classically trained biologist, and I think in terms of hypotheses and testing them. To make a statement to newer players that the older blades are better or play better is a real disservice to them.  True, no problem w/ that statement at all, I don't need to be a Scientist or Engineer to figure that out. However, to some people, knowing the blade he's using/holding is a "Classic" or "Old model/gem/rare pc. of/1 of a kind" make help them feel good & who knows, might make them play better or excel in a particular day/game. It's in their head or a psychological thing, right? It could also go the other way, as they might think, oh..this is a classic oldie & I gotta careful or else....their games then go shxty....

so you understand his theory but you don't put it in practice.
"- OSP Virtuoso, Virtuoso Plus & 1980's Stiga AR UTC - Anatomic. "



Edited by sa01 - 05/06/2012 at 4:16pm