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    Posted: 05/03/2012 at 5:19am
Originally posted by Antiq Antiq wrote:

Haha, I just said that it look real to me, doesn't meant that it is real. Unless you willing to send it to me for close examination. Oh, maybe you should send it to someone in UK (cheaper and nearer) who have the real thing to verify for you.
 



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Originally posted by Thomasson Thomasson wrote:

If it is indeed real I appologise, I myself am still not convinced that it is genuine. I'm uncertain because I still think if you compare pics that the JTTA stamp is off balance and the story you said about receiving it from former player-x, all I say is, seems like alot of people receive free blades that are highly popular in the market, alot turn out to be fake ;) 


Hi,
the.JTTAA stamp are just like the previous photo that posted on the first page and they just look the same.
I received this blade 4 years ago and the blade is older that 4 years as it has been used.
The reason why I keeping this blade for so long is because I am FL handle person and I know that Butterfly don't make this old black metal logo anymore.
Do you if I can send.the picture to Butterfly company to check if it is genuine?

Thank you all
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If it is indeed real I appologise, I myself am still not convinced that it is genuine.
I'm uncertain because I still think if you compare pics that the JTTA stamp is off balance and the story you said about receiving it from former player-x, all I say is, seems like alot of people receive free blades that are highly popular in the market, alot turn out to be fake ;) 
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Haha, I just said that it look real to me, doesn't meant that it is real. Unless you willing to send it to me for close examination. Oh, maybe you should send it to someone in UK (cheaper and nearer) who have the real thing to verify for you.
 
Good luck...
I love cheap and good blades that suit my game...
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Thank you Antique!
You just prove that my TSB is real.
People just say it was fake because they saw Viscaria and it is fake but I didn't know that.
I personally think this so unfair to me
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I've personally came across a fake TBS before... and fortunately, I have a Original TBS to compare with, the differences were quite obvious when you put them side by side. Nowadays, you have to be very careful buying popular Bty blades online.
 
Looking at the TBS photos the seller posted, it looks real to me... unless the copied quality is so super good. 
 
And yes, the Viscaria posted in ebay under the same name is definitely a fake.
 
For those posted by fatt, taken from taobao, the blades in the picture may look real, but you never know what they send to you...Ouch
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Hmm...I was right.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tiehwen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/02/2012 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by timoboll10 timoboll10 wrote:

What blade is this?
Are you both real?
Thank you for your help
The duo were from China. Real or Fake, it's anyone's guess....
Here is another Genuine one:
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What blade is this?
Are you both real?
Thank you for your help
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may be this pic. might help or may be further add to the confusion which is real, genuine or fake?
 


Edited by tiehwen - 05/02/2012 at 6:12pm
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TO 
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Please deletes some of your inbox messages as I can't send the private message to you! 
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

thank you for making an effort.
 
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The first blade that I circle is  Bty Gergely21, and the second one is  Bty Iolite.
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Please see this.

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Hi fatt, 
For the Viscaria blade, I don't know it was fake and I couldn't end the action or add an explanation on the list but I will send the winner a message and explain everything. Thanks all of you guys for spotting and let me know, also thank you to  jt99sf for the confirm.

For TSB ST - I did sent an email with a lots of pictures to  jt99sf to check if it is real or not. 
I have also sent it to  tiehwe
Also of you or any one who can help and want some pictures please PM me your emails address and I will send it to you. 

Thank you very much

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More photos below this link;

How clean do you want the logo to be? 

I really hope this will help. 
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The J.T.T.A.A logo is the same as Timo Boll Spirit 

I can confirm that this blade is real as friend of my who used to played in British national league gave it to me when he stop playing and I kept this for 4 years!  
The handle logo that you said it's seem sketchy, well I believe it's just the scratched as I used Canon 500D  took all the photos so you all can see it in detail. 
Please have a look at it again, I am honest and that is why I put every pictures of the blade on the link so every body can see! If you guys need more pictures please let me know. I will posting the pictures all you need. This would a heart broken if this blade is fake as I always believe it is real...

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In China, sometime a genuine empty Mao Tai wine (#1 expensive wine made in China) bottle can sell for hundries dollars or more, this is just because someone can use this empty bottle make fake Mao Tai wine.
Is anyone saling the Butterfly black metal logo here? If yes, he/she is out!


Edited by gweipwu - 05/01/2012 at 4:52pm
ping pong amateur,...

BTY Viscaria FL

H3 FH, T64 BH,

My feedback link:
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=84832&title=feedback-gweipwu
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I'm a bit worried as a friend I know quite well might've already offered this seller 175 USD for this "clone". Good catch/eyes, people. Without having looked @ my 2 pics. carefully, I'd have already been led to believe this being a genuine TBS ST. Then again few more detailed shots would help.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Is it 100% sure that the Viscaria on Ebay (link above) is fake?
Yes, it has a known typo "peIrformance" on the face side. Can't comment on TBS, but the JTTTA font seems slightly different from tiehwen's pictures, but this could be attributed to different viewing angle.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Let's ask him where he bought his stuff; hopefully not from taobao.com: 

$27 for a TBS and about the same for a Viscaria...

Is it 100% sure that the Viscaria on Ebay (link above) is fake?

What are the chances the TBS in this present ad is fake? 50%? 80%? please let me know.

 
The Bty logo on the BH side is not straight. I believe its a fake.
 
Do you think the seller will answer you honestly?
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Doubt this. The price is already close to $100. The question is whether the seller knows?
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Originally posted by helmsman helmsman wrote:

Not sure about this TBS, but this one is fake indeed.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Butterfly-Viscaria-Blade-FL-Table-Tennis-Paddle-Bat-/200752434251?pt=UK_Sports_TableTennis_RL&hash=item2ebdc70c4b#ht_627wt_1177

 
same seller,  that's not good.  the back logo is so crooked.
 
I hope the EBay bidders are aware of it being a fake.  28 bids so far.
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not 100% sure about this seller's TBS ST as well, but I know these duo below here are genuine:
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Possible fake looking closely at the pictures, another member on the forum pointed this out to me and I think he is right.

http://jpegbay.com/gallery/001634160-4.html#4

Look at the JTTAA part, it seems sketchy. Also the handle logo on the BH side.


Edited by Thomasson - 05/01/2012 at 5:12am
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How much you want for it? :)
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