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    Posted: 04/25/2012 at 7:59pm
Hi, 
I have Timo Boll Spirit(ST) with old black butterfly logo for sell. The blade is in very good condition and open to offer. 
To see the picture please visit the link below 

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That blade has not been used for a short period of time as I can't get use to ST handle, I am a FL handle.
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Open to trades?
butterfly tbs
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No, I don't do trade.
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How much you want for it? :)
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You can PM me your offer
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please tell us your asking price; this is not an auction site. thank you, fatt.
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Possible fake looking closely at the pictures, another member on the forum pointed this out to me and I think he is right.

http://jpegbay.com/gallery/001634160-4.html#4

Look at the JTTAA part, it seems sketchy. Also the handle logo on the BH side.


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not 100% sure about this seller's TBS ST as well, but I know these duo below here are genuine:
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Originally posted by helmsman helmsman wrote:

Not sure about this TBS, but this one is fake indeed.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Butterfly-Viscaria-Blade-FL-Table-Tennis-Paddle-Bat-/200752434251?pt=UK_Sports_TableTennis_RL&hash=item2ebdc70c4b#ht_627wt_1177

 
same seller,  that's not good.  the back logo is so crooked.
 
I hope the EBay bidders are aware of it being a fake.  28 bids so far.
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Doubt this. The price is already close to $100. The question is whether the seller knows?
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Let's ask him where he bought his stuff; hopefully not from taobao.com: 

$27 for a TBS and about the same for a Viscaria...

Is it 100% sure that the Viscaria on Ebay (link above) is fake?

What are the chances the TBS in this present ad is fake? 50%? 80%? please let me know.




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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Let's ask him where he bought his stuff; hopefully not from taobao.com: 

$27 for a TBS and about the same for a Viscaria...

Is it 100% sure that the Viscaria on Ebay (link above) is fake?

What are the chances the TBS in this present ad is fake? 50%? 80%? please let me know.

 
The Bty logo on the BH side is not straight. I believe its a fake.
 
Do you think the seller will answer you honestly?
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Is it 100% sure that the Viscaria on Ebay (link above) is fake?
Yes, it has a known typo "peIrformance" on the face side. Can't comment on TBS, but the JTTTA font seems slightly different from tiehwen's pictures, but this could be attributed to different viewing angle.
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I'm a bit worried as a friend I know quite well might've already offered this seller 175 USD for this "clone". Good catch/eyes, people. Without having looked @ my 2 pics. carefully, I'd have already been led to believe this being a genuine TBS ST. Then again few more detailed shots would help.
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helmsman is the man today; good eye man! catching the same ID on a fake item for sale on ebay is high level tt detective work!
my hat's off to your peiformance :)
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In China, sometime a genuine empty Mao Tai wine (#1 expensive wine made in China) bottle can sell for hundries dollars or more, this is just because someone can use this empty bottle make fake Mao Tai wine.
Is anyone saling the Butterfly black metal logo here? If yes, he/she is out!


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The J.T.T.A.A logo is the same as Timo Boll Spirit 

I can confirm that this blade is real as friend of my who used to played in British national league gave it to me when he stop playing and I kept this for 4 years!  
The handle logo that you said it's seem sketchy, well I believe it's just the scratched as I used Canon 500D  took all the photos so you all can see it in detail. 
Please have a look at it again, I am honest and that is why I put every pictures of the blade on the link so every body can see! If you guys need more pictures please let me know. I will posting the pictures all you need. This would a heart broken if this blade is fake as I always believe it is real...

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More photos below this link;

How clean do you want the logo to be? 

I really hope this will help. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/02/2012 at 3:08pm
I do not know how to recognize a fake TBS and on all the photos above, it shows the typical pattern of middle plies made out of carbon arylate; I will not pronounce myself on the TBS (I asked above the general opinion about it for that reason) however I must say the link to Ebay and a fake Viscaria is not helpful to side with you. That's all I can say.
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Hi fatt, 
For the Viscaria blade, I don't know it was fake and I couldn't end the action or add an explanation on the list but I will send the winner a message and explain everything. Thanks all of you guys for spotting and let me know, also thank you to  jt99sf for the confirm.

For TSB ST - I did sent an email with a lots of pictures to  jt99sf to check if it is real or not. 
I have also sent it to  tiehwe
Also of you or any one who can help and want some pictures please PM me your emails address and I will send it to you. 

Thank you very much

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thank you for making an effort.
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Please see this.

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The first blade that I circle is  Bty Gergely21, and the second one is  Bty Iolite.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

thank you for making an effort.
 
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