Primorac Carbon is not made anymore?

On Japanese Butterfly digital catalog, Primorac Carbon is not there.

Either
1. Primorac Carbon is not made in Japan.
or
2. Primorac Carbon is not made at all.


Do you have any info ?

I think resellers may still have stock on it, but does the supplier still makes them?

BeaverMD wrote: Stavros wrote: On Japanese Butterfly digital catalog, Primorac Carbon is not there. Either 1. Primorac Carbon is not made in Japan. or 2. Primorac Carbon is not made at all. Do you have any info ?   I would be pretty surprised if PC was discontinued.  Butterfly is pretty good about keeping blades named after players ex. Jonyer, Gergely, Grubba, Korbel blades, just to name a few have been around for years.  Also, hinoki tops on carbon blades feel really, really nice.  I've even read that both Schlager and Kreanga use the PC and change the handles (don't take my word on this).  So it would really be strange if the PC was discontinued.  If true, I better buy about five and resell it in a couple of years or so

I've seen Kreanga's blade. It's a Primorac Carbon with a custom handle. T05-FX rubbers.
I also think to buy another PC, not for sale, just for me.
I think it's the best blade for close to the table style.

BTY Korea still sells it for 125,000Won, or around $110

cole_ely wrote: I woudlnt' be surprised if they discontinued it in favor of blades that are easier and cheaper to make (aka china).  They're trying to push everything to the timo blades, which look to me like they're made by galaxy or maybe sunflex.   Unfortunately, that seems to be the direction the industry is headed.

bluebucket wrote: Why would you want a Japanese car in Europe when you have German cars. Madness

cole_ely wrote: I woudlnt' be surprised if they discontinued it in favor of blades that are easier and cheaper to make (aka china).  They're trying to push everything to the timo blades, which look to me like they're made by galaxy or maybe sunflex.   Unfortunately, that seems to be the direction the industry is headed.

There are two left with our regional distributor. One with the old tin logo, and one with the silver plate.

Edited by Imago - 05/23/2012 at 4:31pm

ZApenholder wrote: Stavros wrote: ZApenholder wrote: Stavros, have you tried emailing Butterfly directly with the query? Butterfly generally is quick to respond to emails. I sent an email to Butterfly yesterday, but no answer yet. Today, I ordered a Primorac Carbon from e-pingpongshop.com. So, with two Primorac Carbon blades I'll be ok for many years... lol good plan but the question is,,, is 2 blades really enough?? lol I hope they don't discontinue it, I personally don't use it, but a lot of people at my club loves it

 Having tested so many blades the last 30 years I think that I'll stay to Primorac Carbon.
I don't say it's the best blade for everyone but it's the most suitable for me.
kreanga loves this blade very much. He used a custom SK7 for some time but he switched again to P.C.

Imago wrote: I think both Schlager Carbon and Primorac Carbon have to be discontinued. These blades lack whatever feeling. They are suicidal for players with USTTA rating under 2000.

Due to large sweet spot, I find PC more controllable than an ALL blade for counter drives , top spins and blocks close to the table. I don't suggest this blade to a beginner though.

Quality control isn't just about which factory something is made though...goes a lot beyond that.  It's very possible that galaxy doesn't operate under the same QC for their own brand's products as the products they make for other brands, whatever they may be.

Even if you find made in japan logo on PC it doesn't mean it is really from japan. Also, quality of PC, and probably all btty expensive blades, is much lower than 10-15 years ago. 

Taksim, given its 7.2mm thickness, is more suited for fast attack.

Primorac Carbon is still available for sale in specific markets other than Japan, just like Viscaria.

A major function of the Arylate(Vectran) fiber when used in blades is to filter out vibrations.  The issue with carbon is that it has less damping such that it actually stings the hand when struck hard, and so we see Butterfly couples it with other fibers to minimize the effect.



Synthetic fibers are one thing, still the wood choice and thickness have a larger effect on the feel.  The Viscaria(Koto/ALC/Ayous/Kiri) is the prototype for the TBS and its derivatives, and Zhang Jike, and all of them feel soft but stiff.

Not the case for Taksim(Ayous/ALC/Ayous/Kiri), the Butterfly China catalog has Taksim listed as hard and for fast attack(快攻).  Since Butterfly Japan does not carry it anymore, I can't help but to take their words on it.

It seems that Taksim is not a typical arylate-carbon representative and behaves much differently than Boll Spirit, Viscaria and Boll ALC that I have extensively tested.