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GAC GROUP 2012 ITTF World Tour, China Open,23 May |
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TTNoobie
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didn't realize Feng Tianwei got knocked out by Pavlovic, top Women's players, outside the Chinese, are all weak against defenders
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blahness
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Ma Lin just lost the 1st set to Oh Sang Eun too, but I don't think Oh has much chance against Ma Lin's serves and 3rd balls...
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blahness
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about to lose the 2nd set too!
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blahness
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ma lin in serious trouble now....1-3 down
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ZApenholder
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lol, you chating to yourself.
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blahness
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I was trying to start a discussion but no one's following.... |
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blahness
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do you think Ma Lin can come back from 1-3 down 7-9 down? |
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ZApenholder
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9-8 now... maybe
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blahness
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9-9! And Ma Lin has 2 serves!
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ZApenholder
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Just scary imo for CNT management that Wang Hao lost in 7 games,
ZJK already lost 2 sets, Ma Lin in trouble |
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blahness
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outrageous flick from Ma Lin + a heavy disguised side-top serve sealed the game! Will we be witnessing a great comeback?
Edited by blahness - 05/26/2012 at 2:21am |
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ZApenholder
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well first upset to a Chinese by a non Chinese
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jonyer1980
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Poor Ma lin; he´s just a mummy nowadays. I really believe he should retire as soon as possible. There´s nothing of that former Olimpic champion on him IMO, he has seasoned much worse than WLQ and any other CT member players.
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ZApenholder
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Thats the things with penholders.
They tend not to last as long as shakehanders. Poor Ma Lin |
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blahness
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but both ZJK and Ma Long squeezed victories out of hard matches...
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ZApenholder
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Thank goodness ZJKwon,
11-13 / 11-6 / 10-12 / 12-10 / 11-6 / 13-11 Not convincing and had to give 2 games away. Same with Ma Long, had to give 2 games away. I think this is one of the toughest China Opens for a long time now, and there are so many top non Asian players that is not part of this tourney |
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jonyer1980
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Well, not really, Juanito is still kicking some ass at his 50´s, but he´s an old fashioned traditional pip-out PH.
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blahness
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One of the coolest table tennis players ever... it's almost like a Jackie Chan movie where the old master schools the younglings... |
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ttplayer92
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I hope that they will keep encountering more tough matches! Its always good for the game when new faces start showing up
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ZApenholder
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So that is one player, vs how many that is not there? Or because Juanito is still there, that means PH can last very long? I guess I was generalising in my statement, which is true. PH tend to retire earlier than SH Edited by ZApenholder - 05/26/2012 at 3:56am |
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vutiendat1337
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even though Koki Niwa lost, he did give Ma Long a run for his money. im really impressed by the Japanese and Korean youngsters in general. new threat to CNT?
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thumbs up if you like upsets!
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ZApenholder
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I think they always been threats to the Chinese Mens and Womens Maybe Japanese men players disappeared for a few years, but now they are back on the scene. What I think is so important is that they are still so young, and possibly still haven't even reach close to they peaks yet. Japan and Korea also has good TT development system. Now we just need more countries to come through, if there is maybe 7 countries that can challenge China, that means any quarter final winner can win the tournement. |
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not only do they have that crappy commentator, they've muted all other sounds! so no game sound or sound from the crowd. I turn off the volume typical ittv incompetence
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Koki does two things that give Ma trouble - play left-handed and play close to the table. Mz Long likes to wind up and Koki can take that time away. Koki's block away from Ma wasn't working as well at it did the last time.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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vutiendat1337
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Well, in my opinion, Mizutani or Kishikawa were never really a threat to the CNT let alone Kazuhiro or Matsudaira brothers. As far as Korea goes, Ryu a threat? hell no (he's always matched up with WH and always looses), Joo could never threaten CNT as a chopper unless they have a bad day or are just lazy to move (zhang jike and the latest loss to JSH). Oh with his passive blocking style can't beat explosiveness and power of the chinese trio. For the ladies, both Kasumi and Ai are to "weak" against the chinese girls, I dont know much about Hirano, though. How is she standing against the chinese? But are right, both Japan and Korea have produced quite a couple of promising talents. Not that I am against Chinese domination but I would really like watching major events with a little more tension and thrill than just having the usual - ma long / zjk / xx / wh. I wish Germany had young talents as well, though. Timo is getting old, Dima is improving and has the potential. Apart from those two, there's nobody to fight the top leagues :///
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ZApenholder
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Vutiendat,
If you want to compare like that, then no non Chinese player can really be allowed to be in this comparison table. Not even Timo Boll (as per your RSM - where he pushes WH to 6 or 7 games so many times)..... Guess I was just generalising, that Japan and Korea are there, but not just with 1 player, but a few players that can give Chinese a run for they money. And if not today, atleast this system that is in place (for past 20 years) can cause trouble in the long run. It is a pity that Sweden has faded away, and Germany didn't produce a second Timo, Dima still has a bit more to progress. I know there are some youngster coming up, but non that is threatening as a 18/19 year old. So imagine in Europe you have Sweden/Germany, Asia you have Japan/Korea and China's B teams of HK/SG, and maybe one or two more can be added in the future to really challenge CNT. I think then the games will be much more exciting to win (and more pressure for the CNT players) Edited by ZApenholder - 05/26/2012 at 7:06am |
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vutiendat1337
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Yea, i was talking about current generation rather than the past (i dont have much knowledge about it anyway). Do you think Sweden has players good enough to challenge CNT? As far as I can tell, Jorgen is "the best" right now and well, he's old?:DDDD Yup, I just hope for more exciting games. I dont really think any country could top the Chinese for years to come but at least they can offer a real challenge. Looking forward to it. Zhang Jike vs. Jun Mizutani and Xu Xin vs. Oh Sang Eun LIVE now :)) i root for Jun, go!! Edited by vutiendat1337 - 05/26/2012 at 7:24am |
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ZApenholder
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even though the likes of Chinese player that still win, but the games are getting closer, and the game/set wins are 2 points or just a few more.
Where a few years ago, it used to be a lot of 11-5 type of wins |
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ZApenholder
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Imagine if it will be a WLQ and XX final
I'm sure it will give LGL a lot of headache lol |
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