H3 NEO: What degree hardness do you prefer ?

We need to gauge what degree hardness you like your Hurricane 3 NEO to be. Thanks.


Edited by razortt - 05/29/2012 at 11:41am

40 when tuned, it become softer. 39 when tuned is not hard enough for forehand.

39 deg, is just right for me

I'm not so sure the marking on the commercial sheets is actually meaningful... I had a 37deg and 39deg sheet, and the 37deg was clearly harder....which makes you wonder....

The problem we faced regarding hardness of sponge is that all manufacturers DO NOT follow any  guideline. I wonder why ITTF do not enforce this ruling as this will easy the consumer to pick a rubber of their choice.

I don't think you can get Commercial H3 with softer than 39 deg.  Let me know if anyone knows where to get 38 deg Commercial.

razortt wrote: mhnh007 wrote: I don't think you can get Commercial H3 with softer than 39 deg.  Let me know if anyone knows where to get 38 deg Commercial. Its possible to get the 38degree as long as there's enough demand for it. Thats why we are conducting the poll to see what customers like. Thanks.

If you can make it happen, then I would suggest you do, as you maybe the only one who can provide 38 deg commercial H3.  Most of people are playing with commercial, and they will not know how much more control they can get with a 38 deg, and the loss on spin and speed is insignificant compare to 39 deg.  Those who play with provincial H3, usually tune, so they want a harder sponge, but it does not mean they do not appreciate the 38 deg.  Just my 2 cents.


Edited by mhnh007 - 05/30/2012 at 2:56pm

If I have a chance to meet DHS management I will tell them that H3 is so popular and it deserves a good engineering and manufactuing team to take care of it.

Edited by gweipwu - 05/30/2012 at 4:36pm

haggisv wrote: I'm not so sure the marking on the commercial sheets is actually meaningful... I had a 37deg and 39deg sheet, and the 37deg was clearly harder....which makes you wonder....

41 heavily tuned
40 tuned
38-39 otherwise...depending on the blade i use

Considering the inconsistancies with the DHS hardness marking, and the lack of any guidelines or references, perhaps you can ask DHS just to send you the stickers with a range of hardness markings, so that you can put them on yourself before you send them to the customers. The placebo effect alone will probably satisfy most hurricane fans, as they're very used to variations between one sheet and another.

cotdt wrote: We are still waiting on DHS to make a glue-effect sponge version of the H3, that never needs tuning.

Tuning H3 is a joy, you'll be amazed when it plays totally different and better after tuning.
Tuning with Dianchi needs 3 layers for the new rubbers, which is too much.
I prefer tuning it with pararfin oil mixed with baby oil, wait for 3 days.
Then put Parafin oil on the topsheet.
It has permanent effect which is fast enough on Viscaria for me.

peter79 wrote: cotdt wrote: We are still waiting on DHS to make a glue-effect sponge version of the H3, that never needs tuning. Tuning H3 is a joy, you'll be amazed when it plays totally different and better after tuning. Tuning with Dianchi needs 3 layers for the new rubbers, which is too much. I prefer tuning it with pararfin oil mixed with baby oil, wait for 3 days. Then put Parafin oil on the topsheet. It has permanent effect which is fast enough on Viscaria for me.

What I think is interesting about H3 is that, every once in a while I seem to achieve a "permanent" tune.

And by tune, I don't necessarily mean a "chemical click" - but rather, a physical stretch that increases overall speed and gives the rubber a set of middle gears (for passive blocking and countering). At the same time, the sponge is softened, so even though the rubber is faster on many shots, it's still more forgiving than stock H3 at the right times (when caught out of position).

I say that because I have a sheet of blue sponge h3 from TTNPP that is several months past the first and only super-prime/tune, and it still plays better (more forgiving, still good power and spin, still decent short game) than most of the $30-50 H3 variants I've purchased that I just water glued.

icontek wrote: What I think is interesting about H3 is that, every once in a while I seem to achieve a "permanent" tune. And by tune, I don't necessarily mean a "chemical click" - but rather, a physical stretch that increases overall speed and gives the rubber a set of middle gears (for passive blocking and countering). At the same time, the sponge is softened, so even though the rubber is faster on many shots, it's still more forgiving than stock H3 at the right times (when caught out of position). I say that because I have a sheet of blue sponge h3 from TTNPP that is several months past the first and only super-prime/tune, and it still plays better (more forgiving, still good power and spin, still decent short game) than most of the $30-50 H3 variants I've purchased that I just water glued.

The most important thing about tuning H3 is to make it block and smash better.
Without tuning needs time to break in and I have no patience to wait.
With Parafin Oil and Baby oil, I can directly play as if it's break in.
I'll do that for all new H3 rubber in the future.

Can one really tell the difference between 2.1, 2.15 and 2.2mm?  I bet the quality control is not that good.  If 2.2mm is standard I would ask for 2mm and 1.8mm for BH use.  When the sponge is firm it isn't necessary for the sponge to be so thick to keep from "bottoming out".  Thinner sponge reduces the weight just a little.  The same goes for H2 Neo.