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Stavros
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Stavros
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Imago
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LaRedoute
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i use booster only when i reglue.. to stretch shrinked rubber to its initial shape
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slevin
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I just used a layer of Dandoy Bio Boost on T05 max and BF M1 2.0.
Both rubbers needed tuning: T05 went from 48g to 43g and M1 went from 48g to 42g! I got excellent results on both. Ideally, I should use more than 1 layer on this (lower weight) M1 but the rubber already feels fast to me before tuning. I was especially surprised by its results on the T05. For some reason, I feel control has improved with this layer on. Perhaps non-linearity has reduced a bit (either in throw or catapault).
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Stavros
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Falco Tempo Long booster on Boost TC.
First layer on November 27. Second layer on November 28. Today, 8 days after the last layer the dome is still there. When the rubber is flat I'll glue it.
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GoldenDragoon
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Has anyone had a weird experience boosting H3 with Falco? In the past I used Seamoon but recently I have twice tried Falco and the rubber seemed to initially lose performance! Speed and spin are similar to before boosting however the throw angle is very low like a pimple rubber! After a short session with it the rubber seems to "come to life" however TG3 boosted the same way does not have the same problem.
Anyone else experince this strange behaviour? |
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vic#74
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I put one coat of Falco Long on 6 month old T05, let it dry for 24 hours and slap it on. It played like 2 years old Sriver. No spin, no throw...good for flat hitting. Have I done smth wrong? ))
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Hans Regenkurt
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I have no experience boosting either H3 or T05 unfortunately.
I will not be playing at all for 3 weeks but I have the following to add to the topic, more specifically how certain rubbers take oil. Sanwei A+ takes tuning very badly. It is indicated on its packaging that no oil should touch it whic I did not believe. It seems to be a rather good rubber without tuning and I have some photos of it. If anyone is interested, I can post a review in January. It tried get it absorbing Falco Long but it does not really seem to hold it. Sword Nano and Paladin: I put two layers of Seamoon on them and within just 10 hours they absorbed it almost completely. They dome extremely. Acuda S1: it takes Falco Long very well. I have not tried any of the above yet and as I said, I only will be able to do so in January. |
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spin_whisperer
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I bought some falco tempo booster and life expander bundle. Slapped on 2 coats of booster to some old rubbers..they curled up real nice but I'm waiting for them to go back down. It's been like 4 or 5 days now. They have gone down a little bit but not flat enough to glue..how long does it take for rubbers to go flat after 2 coats of falco tempo booster?
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Rich215
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spin_whisper.......what rubber did you boost? It all depends on the composition of the sponge. I have seen different results of the Falco LB on 3 different rubbers I have tried it on. ESN rubbers seem to respond well and also Mark V sponge.
I friend told me he gets good results on Tenergy sponge using the Tibhar boosters, which I think are close to the same as the Dandoy or TRF boosters. I think two of these are made by the same place if I recall. Seems with some reports, certain boosters work better for different rubbers. It all has to do with chemical make up and types of sponge. |
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spin_whisperer
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Oh ok..that makes sense. I boosted a few lol!. H3 neo, Bluefire M1 and M2, T64, Red Diamond, Venus 2, Hammond Pro Beta, I think that's it. I just wanted to experiment for fun and make some of the rubbers bigger because a few shrunk during use.
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simon_xuan
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Falco almost have no results on XIOM carbo sponge and Nibus VIP sponge, neither did baby oil, Tibhar clean tune or Paraffin oil. I am yet to try Dandoy
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bibigon
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I think you have to wait for 3 days at least after boosting. I had nice experience with T05 and TRF or Dianchi (the later yield better results). I didn't try to use T05 sooner than 5 days after boosting but tested some other rubbers next day after and never like the results. |
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vic#74
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Thnx, on Friday I'll check if the things will be better...right 5 days after boosting :)
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AMonteiro
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I had good experience with Omega 4 Asia and Falco Tempo Booster. I put just one thick layer, let it overnight and next morning it was ready to glue. The performance was great but durability was a disaster.. Bubble in 4 days.. |
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GoldenDragoon
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Ok worked it out... H3 has a much much higher throw when wiped down with sweat instead of.cleaner..... Go figure.... |
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Stavros
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Boost TC with Falco tempo Long booster performs like a dream !
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AMonteiro
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Agree. It was the best rubber for tuning purposes..
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Rich215
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I played for 3 hours last night at my club.......WOW My worn out Rakza soft max black (maybe 60%) with 2 layers of Falco long boost.......WAS AWESOME! Using it on my FH with my soft carbon extra blade.
I was also using a red sheet of the R7 soft max with only 1 layer on it BH side....but it did not work as well because the throw was too high. I think a 2.0 regular R7 will work better for me there. I will have to try that combo next week. Normally I use same rubbers both sides as I am BH dominant and loop both sides. But the softer and single layer tuned R7 soft caused a higher than normal throw and I had problems adjusting to it. As I have mentioned when I first use the Falco LB.....it caused the top sheets of my various degrees of worn Rakza rubbers to become much more grippy. They are still dull in texture and not like the new glossy clear sheen you get.....but the grip was outstanding now as the topsheet also gets softened up with the booster. The top sheet composition of R7 seems to respond well to the F-LB.....as well as the sponge. Edited by Rich215 - 12/13/2012 at 10:49am |
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vic#74
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Still no resuts from T05 +Falco long...it got harder(!), faster, less spinny, very good for flat game...it's actually not what I expected to gain. Should I apply on more coat?
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simon_xuan
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Maybe the top sheet rubber needs to be tuned as well since it dried out. Try Olive oil, light thin layer and wipe clean with wet paper towel after 15 minutes.
Edited by simon_xuan - 12/18/2012 at 1:29am |
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vic#74
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Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ...Bryce Hard +Falco - that's a real stufffffff! Precision, feel, speed, grab...wow! -)) Still to discover how long does effect stay on rubber though.
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TTFrenzy
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boosters expand the sponge thus creating air cells throught it ... there is no way that the rubber got harder only softer... When did you realize (how many days or hours after laying the booster) that it got "harder?" Maybe the boost effect has completely gone after 2-3 weeks and the rubber got back into normal size , thus creating the impression of a "harder" rubber .
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beeray1
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overall I'm still incredibly happy with Seamoon. Used it on nothing but Hurricane 3 though, but it's really quite nice. I think it's best to only RE-tune the NEO, but if you have a non-neo than tuning it right away is gonna be what's up.
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dingyibvs
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Lol...24 hours.... You need to wait at least a week for 1 layer, and 2 weeks for 2 layers. I've tried it after a week and half with 2 layers and it played like a dead rubber. You gotta be patient when using the Falco long. With that said, I didn't really notice a boost on T64 or Acuda S2, maybe I just wasn't that used to those rubbers to begin with.
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Anton Chigurh
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I'm in full agreement. I've found I enjoy rubbers harder than 39 degrees (40 and up) but that is probably personal taste. Irrespective of preferences, there is no doubt that Seamoon does what it's supposed to do. It makes top sheets suppler and sponges livelier, ultimately resulting in a more enjoyable playing experience--especially in terms of feel. Good stuff and easily worth the money. |
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vic#74
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On the Bryce Hard effect was obvious on the next day. I like it. It is much better than T05 for blocking hitting and quite good in looping and lifting underspin. No crazy spin of fresh T05 but gameplay and match results are actually better. I'll look forward how it goes. Tomorrow I'll have city leagues. Hope to do good job there. ( Not good job really. With two layers Bryce is two fast for nervous player... many shots were thrown right into the trashbox..but it's not the case with Bryce...my mind is loaded with things that are far from TT, my legs are weak now, so Bryce +Falco are really good I believe and if the effect will hold for at least 2 weeks I'll stay with them for some time) Edited by vic#74 - 12/23/2012 at 4:05am |
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chinoxcuevas
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Falco Tempo or Seamoon booster for a T05 & Donic BF M2? and how many layers for those rubbers new vs used?.
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AMonteiro
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Falco on T05, just one layer when new or used.
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