Medium Pips

I've been playing (BH) with long pimpled rubbers for a long time, and have tried numeorus ones. I'm a modern style defender, mainly chop with deception, some block and some attack, all to try and setup a fast FH attack.

I'm looking for something with more attacking potential close to the table, but still with the control and some deception of pimpled rubbers. I've heard it say that medium pimpled are a 'jack of all trades, but master of none'.

Anyone out there played with medium pimples and would like to comment?

I will try the Dawei 388C-1 medium pmpled rubber shortly, but have no idea how it compares to other medium pip rubbers.

Any comments appreciated!

Cheers!

well... this might sound strange but I have a teacher in my school who plays J-pen with medium pips on his forehand. He seems to be a normal attacker and I haven't seen too much pip effect except that when he smashes it seems like he is using short pips and when he blocks it is like long pips but without too much spin reversal effect, just gives him more control.

I can tell you that medium pimples are really *totally* harmless. You will find that it will be much harder for you to bring your forehand into play because your opponents will hammer your backhand without making many errors. If you want to become more aggressive with your backhand I would suggest short pimples instead (Friendship 799 or maybe even 802). With short pimples you can generate more backspin and you can vary your spin much more. The biggest advantage is that you get *great* blocking ability and very good attacking ability - especially if you use thick sponges. The defense is very stable with short pips because they offer great control.

YATTP: Thank you again for your help. Trouble is my attack on my BH has always been a weakness, wheras in defence it's a strength. I don't think I would be able to take advantage of the attacking properties of short pips on my BH, and would find it harder to control in defence (because of the speed of this short pip rubber).

So I need a rubber that's real good in defence, but with some attacking capabilities.

Any tips appreciated!

Cheers!

Cheers TTPLAYER. I like to experiment with the chinese ones since they are cheaper.

I didn't think of the DHS ones, although i thought the C7 (and C8) were classed as long pimpled rubber?

 

I think that the Stiga Destroyer is excellent.  You can attack with it and produce excellent spin when chopping.  If you are on a budget, I have a hardly used sheet with .6 sponge on it for real cheap so you can try it out.

Wow, speed glue the long pimpled rubber!!! Do any players actually do that?

How does the speed glue impact on the defensive capabilities of the long pimpled rubber?

Cheers!

I have been using 563 1.5 and have better luck with it on a soft or med blade.. works great with butterfly keyshot light.. and joola shiek blades.. not as good with carbon blade but i put on another sheet to try it before my new 802-40 super soft comes in.. i also tried the 563-1  and it does do better with a harder blade. both are harder to control. so i stay to center of the table. it does knuckle very well when hit hard and I win 98 % of all points when I hit hard with it.. but loose about 20% of the shots due to somewhat less control . Joola pips are ok too

I thought the Dragonnow WAS a short pip?

What's it like?

Cheers!

Iv used 563 med pips by friendship and the jack of all trades but master of none is very true. actually, it more like sucks ass at everything! chops are nothing but knucle balls or light spin, very easy to predict and return. kinda grippy so it could spin and loop a little but inturn lacked the precision to hit through the ball (the big benifit of short pips). use a little more soft soft sponge on the long pips. Im using Dawei 388D and its suuuper soft and flexible PLUS Iv got it on 1,0 sponge so I can totally attack with it also. I can flip about 9 out of 10 back shots if I want to. Its not fast enough to put away with but enough to keep the pressure on and setup the forhand. the onlyh problem I have with this soft, very spaced out LP is that it suuuuuucks at blocks. you have to get it to dig into the pips atleast somewhat to make it effective. blocks are painfully weak. either flip or chop.

I heard of Nittaku specialist soft that is supposed to have good attacking capabilities with disturbing effect.