2013 China Trials for WTTC & HDVideos/Translations

Edited by janus700 - 05/08/2013 at 4:50pm

# March 5, 2013

"The final 1-set matches where Wang Hao took his official ticket to Paris in Full HD (short forms)"

*HD@1080p*

Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoC4Moud6-0


*HD@1080p*

Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PSbUvJVnM8

Edited by janus700 - 05/04/2013 at 11:21am

*HD-Videos@720p*  (The final matches for Yan An's ticket to Paris)

2013 China National Team Selection for WTTC in Paris [Documentary/partly translated in English] 

Edited by janus700 - 04/03/2013 at 5:29pm

Zhang Jike - Chen Qi (Full Match/English Subtitles) by Jagged (Many Thanks!!)

ttTurkey wrote: ZApenholder wrote: ttTurkey, were you around when Yang Ying was still playing? Yes, but I don't really remember her as a player. I followed the men more closely and it seemed like Deng Yaping was winning everything on the women's side.

rick_ys_ho wrote: blahness wrote: I dislike yang ying too, I think she sometimes exaggerates too much and has her own bias for certain players and against certain players, kinda like the drunken commentator at ITTF except not that friendly LOL... Liu Guoliang, on the other hand has a very deep knowledge of the technical and mental side of table tennis, it's a pity he does not work as a commentator :( . Qin Zhijian is also another one, just listening to him commentate Hao Shuai's match against Fan Zhendong was really enlightening. The players themselves don't really know how to commentate though, it's the coaches who are the best IMO.     Liu Guoliang, like most of TT professionals, is good at commenting on certain details and answering specific questions. I don't think Liu can run the whole game as the main commentator. From that perspective, Yang Ying is doing a pretty good job.   Talking about Qin Zhijian (Ma Long's coach), I remember he also commentated once in the first two phases of the trials. It was pretty bad, mainly because of his attitude. He was not serious about answering questions from the other female commentator and online viewers. Somehow it made me feel that he was even making fun of those questions he considered silly. This time his attitude is much better with Yang Ying. You know why? Because Yang was his long time double partner, and they won the double world title together. He can't fool around any more.   Personally, I am OK with Yang Ying's job as a commentator. It is best that she and one other CNT coach commentate a game together.

And speaking of Yang Ying and Qin Zhijian's mixed double partnership...

ZApenholder wrote: JimT wrote: Seems that Ding Ning has qualified as well - anyone saw any official links about that? last i heard, the next round of qualification (for 5th player) in some time in April News: 6 April Ding Ning, Zhu Yuling, Chen Mengjia, Wen Jia will be fighting for 1 spot. 7 April, the remaing 3 players will fight for 1 more spot

This seems to confirm it

http://tabletennista.com/2013/3/ding-ning-goes-through-another-squad-trial/

LGL made a good point.
Mens TT never had a player dominating for a long period of time.
Women TT has 3 players dominating - DYP (CNT Member 1988~1997), WN (CNT Member 1994~2008) and ZYN too

So who else was in Yang Ying's era (CNT member 1992~2001)?

Chen Jing (CNT member 1986~1991 & Taiwan from 1992 ~ 2000)
Liu Wei (CNT member 1986 ~ 1996)
Qiao Hong (CNT member 1987~2000)
Li Ju (CNT member 1991~2001),

Yang Ying was always top 10 in the world in her prime, and most of the time in the top 5.
Agree, she is not going to beat Men Top 20 players (like any women champion can?)
But I think her playing skills makes her some one who has a good knowledge of the game.
She is also the last of Cpen SP (single side), and likely the best Cpen player we have seen in the past 20 years together with Gao Jun.

Agree not all players can make good commenators, but Yang Ying is a professional commentator and good friends with her guess (CNT coach).
So yeah, just to give some history about how good Yang Ying is.

Its getting late (2:40am), I better sleep now.
Been listening to ZJK vs WH, commentated by YY and LGL.
YY and LGL is very good pairing. In fact YY with most coaches are good pairing.
YY starts and gets LGL to finish off - something I remember from 2012 and prior matches.
Maybe this is where people think YY is stupid and needs LGL to correct her?

BTW, LGL also talks way to much (more than YY lol). So maybe LGL is also rude and thinks he is the best.

Any ways, CCTV is not a micky mouse company.
If Yang Ying is not good enough, she would have been replaced long ago.

PS maybe her rough voice is because she is a Tom Boy

So far, I have not yet found a commentor that I can rate higher than YY
And I never was a fan of YY as a player.

Seems that Ding Ning has qualified as well - anyone saw any official links about that?

DragonSpirit wrote: I don't believe yang ying play better any top 20 male players, she just try to get attentions from her commentates, to show that she know something about table tennis in a loud tone of voice. I remember a few years back, she criticised about Ma-long forehand for OVER EXAGGERATED movement loops/poor techniques? Can she loop better than Ma-long??? If she can't play better the top players, don't Criticise about their techniques. li xiaodong is so much better than her.

lol
can you commentate better than Yang Ying?
If not, then don't critise her about her commentating.

Just using your theory against you

There is no doubt that the coaches know how to speak very well, especially in the 1 min break.
I think also with the Chinese language, you can get so much more things through in 1 min, compared to English or any other language.

Regarding Yang Ying, I didn't hear the one with her and LGL recently.
In fact I don't have much time to watch games, just read up on the results etc.

Yang Ying is very good in commentating strategic and skills. This is something similar to NBA commentators who knows what plays are being run and also make recommendations for what the opponent needs to do too. This can enlighten viewers a lot more than just pretty words about what a beautiful shot.

In fact, let me go and listen to how LGL and YY commentated and I will see what all the fuss is about.

I don't believe yang ying play better any top 20 male players, she just try to get attentions from her commentates, to show that she know something about table tennis in a loud tone of voice.
I remember a few years back, she criticised about Ma-long forehand for OVER EXAGGERATED movement loops/poor techniques? Can she loop better than Ma-long??? If she can't play better the top players, don't Criticise about their techniques.
li xiaodong is so much better than her.

Edited by DragonSpirit - 03/15/2013 at 9:58am

yang ying's a bit annoying imo, more interesting commentators imo: liu guoliang, huang biao, li xiaodong etc