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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by nittakuball nittakuball wrote:

wow,i will be in japan end of Apr.
so for sure i getting one of those,no ideal which one to get
maybe ZJK ALC?
How come does not show the weights?
Cool, abang...call or email me before you leave as I might get you to buy 1 of 2 each for me for "Investment" purposes (trading & reselling high as we all see fit LOL)
My t/t buddy, Sam, should be drooling now when he sees all these new offerings from our beloved "Moths".
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sure bro,let me know which one you interested
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This Super ZLC is for the new PVC ball.
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need to know the weights before buy looking for under 87g
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I think I'm going to wait for the $679 Hyper ZLC blade.

If you want real power, you should wait for the Ultra-Blast ZLC blade... it will be a steal at $979.
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

This Super ZLC is for the new PVC ball.

I'll wait for the $1,500 Super Duper ZLC which shall be for the 60mm post 'PVC-ball' ball.
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Originally posted by nittakuball nittakuball wrote:

need to know the weights before buy looking for under 87g
- Jhang Jike Super-ZLC weight at +/- 90 grams.
- Jhang Jike ZLC weight at +/- 86 grams.
- Jhang Jike T5000 weight at +/- 88 grams.
- Jhang Jike ALC weight at +/- 86 grams.


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Need to unload most or some of my "gems" PLUS do some extra overtime after 5.00pm PLUS gotta get extra work during 1 day of the weekend for the next couple of months just to be able to afford these Super ZLC, ZLC & ALC....
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Originally posted by E.ZegnaFan E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Originally posted by nittakuball nittakuball wrote:

need to know the weights before buy looking for under 87g
- Jhang Jike Super-ZLC weight at +/- 90 grams.
- Jhang Jike ZLC weight at +/- 86 grams.
- Jhang Jike T5000 weight at +/- 88 grams.
- Jhang Jike ALC weight at +/- 86 grams.
 
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in that case i going to get
Zhang Jike ZLC
Zhang Jike ALC
for Zhang jike Super ZLC if i can find under 86g i buy it
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Man if Butterfly Japan charges $372 for the ZJK SZLC, just imagine how much it will cost in the US? Possibly $450 or higher (plus a backup blade would be a whopping 900 dollars!)?
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Originally posted by aythsu aythsu wrote:

Man if Butterfly Japan charges $372 for the ZJK SZLC, just imagine how much it will cost in the US? Possibly $450 or higher (plus a backup blade would be a whopping 900 dollars!)?

Don't worry man, price will softer a bit if you can wait. Those prices are just a manufacturer suggest retail price, street price is around 15% less in Japan. 


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Well, I don't plan to get any of the ZJK blades as I'm getting the LSW so it's not a big deal. The ZLC blades are too fast for me, not a big fan of the no vibration of the ALC, and definitely no to the T5000.
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Would anyone know what is the top ply of the Large Shake T5000??

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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

This Super ZLC is for the new PVC ball.

I'll wait for the $1,500 Super Duper ZLC which shall be for the 60mm post 'PVC-ball' ball.

paired with tenergy 900 xp
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has anyone tried the Zhang Jike ALC yet?
If so how does it compare to the normal Zhang blade or the TB ALC.
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noooooo. Only ZLC, ALC and T5000. why didn't butterfly come up with zhang jike w7  Unhappy 
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Originally posted by Big Looper Big Looper wrote:

has anyone tried the Zhang Jike ALC yet?
If so how does it compare to the normal Zhang blade or the TB ALC.


I saw in German forum, there's a guy who tested ZJK alc and super ZLC.
The ZJK alc has more feel than any butterfly arylate carbon blades like TBS, TB ALC, ZJK, Viscaria.
ZJK Super ZLC has amazing feel even though it's composite blade, just like original keyshoot blade feel.
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The shape of the handle is like Viscaria Wink but the finish is like Butterfly ZJK which has rough finish. I can't wait to try this blade Cry
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Even the display booth looks amazing and sophisticated. Butterfly definitely upped the ante in terms of the design and redesign of the blade and the packaging. Thank you for the pictures! 
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What is the deal with the new Super Zylon? How does it differ from the original Zylon fiber?
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by Big Looper Big Looper wrote:

has anyone tried the Zhang Jike ALC yet?
If so how does it compare to the normal Zhang blade or the TB ALC.


I saw in German forum, there's a guy who tested ZJK alc and super ZLC.
The ZJK alc has more feel than any butterfly arylate carbon blades like TBS, TB ALC, ZJK, Viscaria.
ZJK Super ZLC has amazing feel even though it's composite blade, just like original keyshoot blade feel.


I guess that makes it true for sure.  After all, you read it on the internet.  It has to be true.
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I think I'm going to wait for the $679 Hyper ZLC blade.

If you want real power, you should wait for the Ultra-Blast ZLC blade... it will be a steal at $979.

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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

ZJK ALC
http://sports-midas.sakura.ne.jp/sblo_files/midas/image/DSC01601A.jpg

Hmmm, round ST. No more SQST from Butterfly? Unhappy

If I buy the ZJK, it will probably be the FL handle. But the new Mizutani will probably have a good ST handle.

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Found these two links on the Super ZLC:

http://eshop.butterfly.co.jp/html/item/001/007/item6290.html

http://www.butterfly.co.jp/guide/szlc.html

Can anyone translate the text in the second link? I assume it is about the SZLC causing a larger sweet spot but it'd be interesting to see what else it says.
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Super ZLC is ZLC derived from very rare Kryptonite.
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

I see AN handles !! Clap
yep...I saw that too. Shall I ask/send my cousins, their mom & dad or my wife's uncles (cowfuls) or may be their distant relatives to Japan (not China) to get at least 1 each of those for you & me?
They'll be in Japan late next week or early April....
My Taiwanese old couple buddies will be traveling to Taiwan & Japan @ around that time too....Wink Get those ZJKs while they are "New, Hot & just churned out"...or early/1st issues/batch/models. Big smile


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What is the difference between zlc and super zlc?
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$110 usd.
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Yea the profit margin is probably like $300 on the SZLC lol. I do think it will sell though (to those who previously liked zylon). It seems like a genuinely good blade with definitive (allegedly anyways) improvements to the sweet spot.
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