Short pimples for forehand

Which short pimples do you think is the best for topspin and smashes with forehand?

topspin? uhh... go with inverted... if ur smashing, THEN use pips. Topspin with pips is like next to impossible... ick..

Thornta wrote: Which short pimples do you think is the best for topspin and smashes with forehand?

Juic Offense

Of course I understand that I can't produce as good topspin as with inverted. I wonder if there are any short pimples which allows you to make looping strokes. Sorry if I was indistinct.

Butterfly Raystorm is good and Stiga Radical.Stiga clipper is a bit less spinny in my opinion.As is Butterfly Speedy Pips Out(otherwise known as Speedy P.O.).I haven't tried any of the TSP rubbers or any of Joola's short pips.I would not recommend Friendship's 802, it is virtually spinless.Raystorm does take time to get used to .Remember the more spin you can do, the more spin you take from the incoming ball.

For the other comments.
1: yes you can topspin with pips.
2:Topspin is easy enough, looping is hard.
3:He is not looking for great topspin, just good topspin.


The conclusion I must come to is that short pips are not very well understood.


With Raystorm and Radical I have been able to topspin and sidespin quite well.On low balls you may have to go more forward to get enough spin to get the ball over the net.In cramped spaces you may just have to play a lift.

Indonesia5000 wrote: best for creating topspin? Pips out cant really make great topspin because it has less surface area than inverted. As for smashing take your pick.

I disagree. Pips *can* create nearly as much backspin or topspin as normal rubbers if they are used by an expert player. I have played quite a few people who had an incredible spinny topspin opening with short pips.

Dont be offensive with long pimples!

actually, radical is spinnier and faster than raystorm, though raystorm has better control and more suited for looping and radical for hitting

you can give also much backspin with short pips, when youre chopping

YATTP wrote: Indonesia5000 wrote: best for creating topspin? Pips out cant really make great topspin because it has less surface area than inverted. As for smashing take your pick. I disagree. Pips *can* create nearly as much backspin or topspin as normal rubbers if they are used by an expert player. I have played quite a few people who had an incredible spinny topspin opening with short pips.

I completely agree. I think what people are thinking about is looping in a rally and what the person who made this post is thinking about is looping off of underspinl; on the forehand, looping underspin is essentially the same with inverted as it is with short pips. I actually find it easier to loop underspin with short pips, but I feel I lose power too.

Sorry i didnt make that clear. I was talking about looping

which one to choose between clippa or raystorm

Stiga Clippa and BTY Challenger Attack.

raystorm number 1, exellent solution, then 729 802-40 soft pro version

Raystorm is perhaps the easiest choice for spinny short pips that can be used for spinning the ball, spinny serves etc.

My experience with Radical is that it was not as fast as the other short pips I tried and was not easy to control, and the ability to spin wears out when the thin film wears out. Raystorm has much better control.

There is another excellent spinny short pips, but is not available in the US. It is Nittaku Moristo SP, and can be ordered from iruiru of Japan. Moristo SP comes with real thick sponge if u get the max, and u really can spin the ball with it almost like inverted as some inverted users have said when they tried. It also has great control. That's why I said Raystorm is the easiest choice.

I've also used Spectol 21 and Hammond FA and although I like them and spinning is possible to a degree, they are not spin oriented rubbers.

I've used Spin Pips in the past and liked it, but the sheets were not consistent from one to another, even the size of the pips were different sometimes. When I got the good sheet,  the Spin Pips was really good at spinning, but was not really that fast. But, this is the spin pips of the past - the banned kind. I don't know about the new spin pips. I've seen something called super spin pips on iruiru's website, but never tried it, cause Moristo SP fits the bill just fine, and going back to the MoSP after trying the Raystorm even at extra cost.

I've heard of new spin oriented short pips rubber from Yasaka called Extend PO, and heard nice things about it, but it's not available even in iruiru. So..no way to find out..