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mrdoodzki
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wow i didn't know there was an issue like this. i always thought fzd definitely used infinity vps, same with xu xin with his nct blade
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yogi_bear
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FZD uses infinityvps and the 2nd layer of spruce is evident on the pic, if it was a viscaria the 2nd layer would have been different. i have seen other better pics and it is infinity for sure that is aside from a stiga insider who is a reliable source than just people who speculates here and yes, that stiga insider also told me about non-stiga rubbers being used by their players so the notion that because stiga sponsors these players, the equipment they are using are not stiga and are just marketing hype
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the_theologian
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there's not an issue
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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the_theologian
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edit: disregard. who cares.
Edited by the_theologian - 01/28/2014 at 9:13pm |
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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jonyer1980
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Can you tell me the width lenght of the blade?
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Rosewood V FL
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yogi_bear
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compact head size, smaller than butterfly
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tt-panopticum
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Hi,
width : 149.5mm length: 155.0mm Best regards |
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dabeda
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VPS vs Maplewood 5 vs Rosewood XO ?.. anyone can compare ?
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vutiendat1337
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Hmmm, I am sure Ma Long would have something to say about switching from composite to all-wood blades. Just because you establish a logical reasoning doesn't mean it is valid.
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yogi_bear
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speed = maplewood 5 < vps < rosewood 5 xo
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jonyer1980
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I ordered an Infinity V FL master yesterday to replace my seasoned Acoustic. I´ll let you know my personal review when it arrives. I really hope all this hype about the blade will be proved and fit my game, since I was lacking the awesome feeling of Violin since i upgraded to Acoustic.
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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TonyL
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That'd be great. I'm hoping to order one at a later time!
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Mickael
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Nothing compares to the feeling of violin, i don't want to discourage you but you will hate the infinity it is kind of dead compared to violin, hope i am wrong but sure i am not!
Edited by Mickael - 03/15/2014 at 8:03am |
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Nittaku Acoustic Carbon FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 BH |
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ejmaster
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I agree with Mickael. Very different blades. Violin has lot more vibration and feeling.
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EJ Club.
MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood. |
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jonyer1980
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I know its hard to get that sweet feeling but i noticed Violin lacked a bit of raw power once you step back off the table and needed lot of power and didn't go so well with Chinese rubbers.
On the other hand Acoustic has nothing to do with violin, it was fine for me on my FH but too bouncy for my BH and well as blocking or short game. Edited by jonyer1980 - 03/15/2014 at 8:56am |
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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mrdoodzki
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ive been using infinity vps for a month now. as far as i can tell this is the fastest all-wood blade ive used, as fast as my previous blade which was tibhar rapid carbon. its vibration, as you would get from most all wood blades, really gives you a good feel with the ball. i recommend people use this with the latest tensor rubbers, and maybe the tenergys too. the rubbers that i have used with the vps were bryce, bluefire m2, desto f2, h3 national blue sponge, and acuda s1. vps really sucked with bryce, it was really....dead. desto f2 was ok, i just felt the rubber was too slow on vps. same with h3 national blue sponge, although it did bite the ball better, being tacky and having more dwell time because of vps's allwood characteristic. acuda s1 is good on vps, but im not liking the "cracking" sounds acuda s1 makes because it then bottoms out. now comes bluefire m2, this is were i felt vps really shined. the ball had a really good arch with bfm2 + vps and it rarely bottoms out...
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vutiendat1337
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How would you compare it to Korbel or Clipper?
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mrdoodzki
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ive used neither of them. sorry. ive done a couple of hits with other all wood blades. i dont remember most of them. what i do remember is with the stiga master classic and stiga cr classic, and also yasaka extra carbon and also a few other carbon and allwood blades that vibrate a lot. i can tell you vps is faster than any of the ones i've used or atleast have hit a couple of balls with. the only blades faster than vps are sardius and the t-11
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
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jonyer1980
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I really doubt it could be faster that Clipper&neither par with it. Considering the total thickness as well as the ply construction i think it can be closer to a a Korber in terms of speed.
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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speaquinox
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I owned VPS for a while. It is OFF- or OFF at most. Nowhere close to being a fast blade.
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ejmaster
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Agreed +1. And mine was a good weight one. Do not know what blade is mrdoodzki talking about. A MM or a Viscaria are quite more powerful and faster blades than the vps. Also a clipper cr. Fast close to a korbel. Imo the vps is all+-off-. It needs arm power. Edited by ejmaster - 03/16/2014 at 9:23am |
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MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood. |
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mrdoodzki
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then i guess ive been using slower blades since i really feel that vps is fast. [EMAIL= ][/EMAIL]
in any case, i'm really liking the quality of my shots with vps as compared to my previous blades |
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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harldhzx
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Agree with above. VPS is quite fast compared to, say, Rosewood XO but noticably slower than BTY composites. It is rather stiff which makes a transition from composite to it quite easy. You get more control with less power but overall similar feel.
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vutiendat1337
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Makes sense since Clipper is 7-ply, Infinity should not be faster. I am a 5-ply blade fan ^__^ Played with Korbel for the last year and thinking of a trying something "new" lol
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jonyer1980
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Mine arrived today morning. In fact, quality& finishing has improved from those rough old Stiga Series, although it´s still far away from top-notch BYT-DARKER-Nittaku blade. I don´t consider to sand the handle, it´s ok.
Since I don´t have enough time to try it, i´ll make a brief review once i could tried a few sessions. Ive only took a ball with the bare blade, and it´s not bouncier than my Acoustic, nearly the same. Knuckle test knock also sounds a different pitch from my Acoustic, maybe a bit more grave, somehow more compact, harder.
Thickness are also so close, maybe Infinity only a tad thicker. I´ll begin testing it with 05 FH 05FX BH, but i don´t think i can´t match with Chinese boosted on FH, since looks like powerful enough |
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Rosewood V FL
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tt-panopticum
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I only have one Acoustic, but that's 5.85mm - all my Infinity are 6.15-6.20mm The Infinity "official" spec of "5.9mm" is wrong - at least to my experience of 5 different Infinity. |
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jonyer1980
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Yes, you´re right. It´s maybe 0.2-0.3mm thicker
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Rosewood V FL
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bayttplayer
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no...VPS is slow in mid power but very fast in max power. Look at those powerful shot from FZD.. |
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yogi_bear
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its off- to off at most but mostly off-
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jonyer1980
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Well, at last i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs.
First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure between 5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment. As Yogi mentioned, i would rate this blade as OFF- mainly. Mine was 83gr, 05fh 05fx bh. I´ve been playing Acoustic for a few years so i´ll try to compare both. There´s less vibration than acouctic, but it´s not as stiff and hard as clipper or hardwood series. Speed: I don´t think it´s faster than my former Acoustic, perhaps a tad slower. It´s somewhere between Primorac Off- / Korbel Euro version (oval plastic tag). It´s great for close to the table play, but once you step back a few from the table you´ll feel the lacks of power. Spin: I think i can generate even more spin than my acoustic, at least i believe it can bite the ball even better . Brushing looping and services are a breeze, loaded with tons of spin. Control: This is a control based blade, with typical great feeling trademark of Stiga. You can do anything, but if you´re looking for raw speed, then it´s not your blade. It shines on services, as well as service returns, chops, dropshots flicks on the table. Ball placement is great, you can drive easily with incredible accuracy. I´ll give a more detailed review in a future since i these are my first impressions.
Edited by jonyer1980 - 03/22/2014 at 12:35pm |
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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