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wow i didn't know there was an issue like this. i always thought fzd definitely used infinity vps, same with xu xin with his nct blade
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FZD uses infinityvps and the 2nd layer of spruce is evident on the pic, if it was a viscaria the 2nd layer would have been different. i have seen other better pics and it is infinity for sure that is aside from a stiga insider who is a reliable source than just people who speculates here and yes, that stiga insider also told me about non-stiga rubbers being used by their players so the notion that because stiga sponsors these players, the equipment they are using are not stiga and are just marketing hype
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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

wow i didn't know there was an issue like this. i always thought fzd definitely used infinity vps, same with xu xin with his nct blade

there's not an issue
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edit: disregard. who cares.

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Can you tell me the width lenght of the blade?
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compact head size, smaller than butterfly

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Hi,
width : 149.5mm
length: 155.0mm

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VPS vs Maplewood 5 vs Rosewood XO ?..  anyone can compare ?
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Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

Yes, of course I read the whole thread. In my view, FZD is very unlikely to have switched to an Infinity - it bears no similarity to a Viscaria. The thread linked to is inconclusive, with views both ways. You will note, I'm sure, the civility and courtesy demonstrated there. Perhaps it's something some members here can learn from.


Hmmm, I am sure Ma Long would have something to say about switching from composite to all-wood blades. Wink Just because you establish a logical reasoning doesn't mean it is valid. 


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speed = maplewood 5 < vps < rosewood 5 xo
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I ordered an Infinity V  FL master yesterday to replace my seasoned Acoustic. I´ll let you know my personal review when it arrives. I really hope all this hype about the blade will be proved and fit my game, since I was lacking the awesome feeling of Violin since i upgraded to Acoustic.




Edited by jonyer1980 - 03/14/2014 at 1:21pm
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I ordered an Infinity V  FL master yesterday to replace my seasoned Acoustic. I´ll let you know my personal review when it arrives. I really hope all this hype about the blade will be proved and fit my game, since I was lacking the awesome feeling of Violin since i upgraded to Acoustic.



That'd be great. I'm hoping to order one at a later time!
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Nothing compares to the feeling of violin, i don't want to discourage you but you will hate the infinity it is kind of dead compared to violin, hope i am wrong but sure i am not!

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I agree with Mickael. Very different blades. Violin has lot more vibration and feeling.
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I know its hard to get that sweet feeling but i noticed Violin lacked a bit of raw power once you step back off the table and needed lot of power and didn't go so well with Chinese rubbers.

On the other hand Acoustic has nothing to do with violin, it was fine for me on my FH but too bouncy for my BH and well as blocking or short game.

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ive been using infinity vps for a month now. as far as i can tell this is the fastest all-wood blade ive used, as fast as my previous blade which was tibhar rapid carbon. its vibration, as you would get from most all wood blades, really gives you a good feel with the ball. i recommend people use this with the latest tensor rubbers, and maybe the tenergys too. the rubbers that i have used with the vps were bryce, bluefire m2, desto f2, h3 national blue sponge, and acuda s1. vps really sucked with bryce, it was really....dead. desto f2 was ok, i just felt the rubber was too slow on vps. same with h3 national blue sponge, although it did bite the ball better, being tacky and having more dwell time because of vps's allwood characteristic. acuda s1 is good on vps, but im not liking the "cracking" sounds acuda s1 makes because it then bottoms out. now comes bluefire m2, this is were i felt vps really shined. the ball had a really good arch with bfm2 + vps and it rarely bottoms out...
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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:


How would you compare it to Korbel or Clipper?
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ive used neither of them. sorry. ive done a couple of hits with other all wood blades. i dont remember most of them. what i do remember is with the stiga master classic and stiga cr classic, and also yasaka extra carbon and also a few other carbon and allwood blades that vibrate a lot. i can tell you vps is faster than any of the ones i've used or atleast have hit a couple of balls with. the only blades faster than vps are sardius and the t-11
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I really doubt it could  be faster that Clipper&neither par with it. Considering the total thickness as well as the ply construction i think it can be closer to a a Korber in terms of speed. 
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I owned VPS for a while. It is OFF- or OFF at most. Nowhere close to being a fast blade.
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Originally posted by speaquinox speaquinox wrote:

I owned VPS for a while. It is OFF- or OFF at most. Nowhere close to being a fast blade.

Agreed +1.
And mine was a good weight one.
Do not know what blade is mrdoodzki talking about.
A MM or a Viscaria are quite more powerful and faster blades than the vps. Also a clipper cr. Fast close to a korbel.
Imo the vps is all+-off-. It needs arm power.

Edited by ejmaster - 03/16/2014 at 9:23am
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then i guess ive been using slower blades since i really feel that vps is fast. [EMAIL= ][/EMAIL]
in any case, i'm really liking the quality of my shots with vps as compared to my previous blades
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Agree with above. VPS is quite fast compared to, say, Rosewood XO but noticably slower than BTY composites. It is rather stiff which makes a transition from composite to it quite easy. You get more control with less power but overall similar feel. 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I really doubt it could  be faster that Clipper&neither par with it. Considering the total thickness as well as the ply construction i think it can be closer to a a Korber in terms of speed. 

Makes sense since Clipper is 7-ply, Infinity should not be faster. I am a 5-ply blade fan ^__^ Played with Korbel for the last year and thinking of a trying something "new" lol
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Mine arrived today morning. In fact, quality& finishing  has improved  from those rough old Stiga Series, although it´s still far away from top-notch BYT-DARKER-Nittaku blade.  I don´t  consider to sand the handle, it´s ok. 
Since I don´t have enough time to try it, i´ll make a brief review once i could tried a few sessions. Ive only took a ball with the bare blade,  and it´s not bouncier than my Acoustic, nearly the same. Knuckle test knock also sounds a different pitch from my Acoustic,  maybe a bit more grave, somehow more compact, harder.

Thickness are also so close, maybe Infinity only a tad thicker.

I´ll begin testing it with 05 FH 05FX BH, but i don´t think i can´t match with Chinese boosted on FH, since looks like powerful enough
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:


Thickness are also so close, maybe Infinity only a tad thicker.



I only have one Acoustic, but that's 5.85mm - all my Infinity are 6.15-6.20mm

The Infinity "official" spec of  "5.9mm" is wrong - at least to my experience of 5 different Infinity.


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Yes, you´re right. It´s  maybe 0.2-0.3mm thicker


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Originally posted by ejmaster ejmaster wrote:

Originally posted by speaquinox speaquinox wrote:

I owned VPS for a while. It is OFF- or OFF at most. Nowhere close to being a fast blade.

Agreed +1.
And mine was a good weight one.
Do not know what blade is mrdoodzki talking about.
A MM or a Viscaria are quite more powerful and faster blades than the vps. Also a clipper cr. Fast close to a korbel.
Imo the vps is all+-off-. It needs arm power.


no...VPS is slow in mid power but very fast in max power. Look at those powerful shot from FZD..
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its off- to off at most but mostly off-
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Well, at last  i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs.

First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure  between  5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but  he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible  to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment. 

As Yogi mentioned, i would rate this blade as OFF- mainly. Mine was 83gr, 05fh 05fx bh.  I´ve been  playing Acoustic for a few years so i´ll try to compare both.  There´s less vibration than acouctic, but it´s not as stiff and hard as clipper or hardwood series. 

Speed: I don´t think it´s faster than my former Acoustic, perhaps a tad slower. It´s somewhere between Primorac Off- / Korbel Euro version (oval plastic tag). It´s great for close to the table play, but once you step back a few from the table you´ll feel the  lacks of power. 

Spin: I think i can generate even more spin than my acoustic, at least i believe it  can bite the ball even better . Brushing looping and services are a breeze, loaded with tons of spin.

Control: This is a control based blade, with typical great feeling trademark of Stiga. You can do anything, but if you´re looking for raw speed, then it´s not your blade. It shines on services, as well as service returns, chops, dropshots flicks on the table. Ball placement is great, you can drive easily  with  incredible accuracy. 

I´ll give a more detailed review in a future since i these are my first impressions.


Edited by jonyer1980 - 03/22/2014 at 12:35pm
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