Stiga Infinity VPS V

jonyer1980 wrote: Well, at last  i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs. First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure  between  5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but  he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible  to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment.

ejmaster wrote: Fzd is using the infinity. It is quite clear in the pictures. Not just the handle but the layering. I have been using it for months. A 87 gr weight sample and it has all the performance to play at any level. It allows more arm power. Fzd also talked about selecting the weight. The infinity is a perfect off- blade to play at top level.

Edited by kurokami - 03/23/2014 at 3:13am

ejmaster wrote: Fzd is using the infinity. It is quite clear in the pictures. Not just the handle but the layering. I have been using it for months. A 87 gr weight sample and it has all the performance to play at any level. It allows more arm power. Fzd also talked about selecting the weight. The infinity is a perfect off- blade to play at top level.

Edited by jonyer1980 - 03/23/2014 at 4:21am

kurokami wrote: hahaha i was listening to 2014 china trials. whoever was casting called fan zhendong "little fatty"

jonyer1980 wrote: ejmaster wrote: Fzd is using the infinity. It is quite clear in the pictures. Not just the handle but the layering. I have been using it for months. A 87 gr weight sample and it has all the performance to play at any level. It allows more arm power. Fzd also talked about selecting the weight. The infinity is a perfect off- blade to play at top level. Maybe mine´s too light for 83. Even my Acoustic 79gr was faster than INF-V.  According to the pics, his blade looks quite thin, not as thick as typical clipper so whatever he´s using for boosting his rubbers must have a very strong effect..   I´ve been trying to tune it with Falco tempo long and never could get that amount of speed on any chinese rubber

So you're comparing yourself to a world class player ??

jt99sf wrote: jonyer1980 wrote: ejmaster wrote: Fzd is using the infinity. It is quite clear in the pictures. Not just the handle but the layering. I have been using it for months. A 87 gr weight sample and it has all the performance to play at any level. It allows more arm power. Fzd also talked about selecting the weight. The infinity is a perfect off- blade to play at top level. Maybe mine´s too light for 83. Even my Acoustic 79gr was faster than INF-V.  According to the pics, his blade looks quite thin, not as thick as typical clipper so whatever he´s using for boosting his rubbers must have a very strong effect..   I´ve been trying to tune it with Falco tempo long and never could get that amount of speed on any chinese rubber So you're comparing yourself to a world class player ??

Where am I comparing to fzd? Can you read properly?

There are thousands amateurs that CAN easily make run the ball faster than any pro, just like my bro who's 193m&95kg. Its not a matter of technique its just only raw strength. So simple.

jonyer1980 wrote: There are thousands amateurs that CAN easily make run the ball faster than any pro, just like my bro who's 193m&95kg. Its not a matter of technique its just only raw strength. So simple.

I got a 83 gram, but feel has plenty of power, not sure how it characterizes as a off - blade.
It has very hard ourter layer and soft inside, therefore it needs some power kick the ball into blade. Is slow in mid power but very fast in full power.
I think infinity is design for high level player. Well, i'm not a high level player but I can see the point why FZD pick this blade. With infinty, it is really with infinity support, it doesn't lock of your power, speed is linear reflect to your power. very controllable loop with low arc, that is exactly what pros looking for.
This blade might not fit 90% of us, but I think FZD is using it.

bayttplayer wrote: I got a 83 gram, but feel has plenty of power, not sure how it characterizes as a off - blade. It has very hard ourter layer and soft inside, therefore it needs some power kick the ball into blade. Is slow in mid power but very fast in full power. I think infinity is design for high level player. Well, i'm not a high level player but I can see the point why FZD pick this blade. With infinty, it is really with infinity support, it doesn't lock of your power, speed is linear reflect to your power. very controllable loop with low arc, that is exactly what pros looking for. This blade might not fit 90% of us, but I think FZD is using it.

bayttplayer wrote: come on.. if so, I think this blade not for you. as what I mention, it require minimal power to kick the ball into blade before you see the effect, but after that speed will linear reflect to power you put. I play with ALC, Viscaria too, yes is much fast for blocking and action in slow, but full power loop not as fast as infinity. All pros has to use self-power, compare with now you think FZD can makes the ball even faster but switches to ALC? No, carbon blade lacks top-gear but not wood. that's why many pros use wood blade like WLQ who play away from table. [

Edited by aroonkl - 03/25/2014 at 5:30am

Mine will arrive in 2 weeks, perfect weight


Edited by peter79 - 03/25/2014 at 6:06am

TonyL wrote: What's the difference between buying from the Chinese Stiga Supplier other than being able to choose the weight?

well I buy clipper cr with paper sticker and compare it with Stiga china version. both has the same weight 90 gr, the chinese market version has better finish and better feel, more solid...

well, obvious wood more easy to bend than carbon, right? carbon blade faster when ball just kick in the carbon layer but after that the change is small. Let say you put 70% of your power, you will get 80 speed on carbon and 70 on wood. but if you put 90% of your power the effect might be something like 90 on carbon 95 on wood.
for infinity, it designed with very hard outer layer if the outer layer bends a lot it can store huge energy.
just because most of us for most of time not able to do so. I agree this blade not fitting most of us, well, not the best blade for me either. But I can see why pros pick this blade, they don't have off- shots....
me.. I have no problem with FH, ball go deep, long dwell time very fast and controlable , but BH not able to do so.
This blade is for player with fast stroke, someone like Truong and Liang Yonghui with fast stroke will work.
Acutually, I gave my infinity to Liang Yonghui to try. I can fell the ball super fast, but spin not as much as his viscaria somehow.

aroonkl wrote: My main blade is  slower than V. But I have and play with V, ALC and Innerforce zlf.  Carbon blade lacks top gear but not wood? That is funny. You mean 5W+ Carbon has less top gear than the same 5W. So Ma Lin carbon is has less top gear than Ma Lin regular version. Also as Acoustic carbon is slower than normal Acoustic. Primoc Carbon and .......... All pro has self power for sure. But find the FZD.'s interview and read yourself. He believes he lost some power but gain quality of his balls from using pure wood instead of composite. bayttplayer wrote: come on.. if so, I think this blade not for you. as what I mention, it require minimal power to kick the ball into blade before you see the effect, but after that speed will linear reflect to power you put. I play with ALC, Viscaria too, yes is much fast for blocking and action in slow, but full power loop not as fast as infinity. All pros has to use self-power, compare with now you think FZD can makes the ball even faster but switches to ALC? No, carbon blade lacks top-gear but not wood. that's why many pros use wood blade like WLQ who play away from table. [

bayttplayer wrote: well, obvious wood more easy to bend than carbon, right? carbon blade faster when ball just kick in the carbon layer but after that the change is small. Let say you put 70% of your power, you will get 80 speed on carbon and 70 on wood. but if you put 90% of your power the effect might be something like 90 on carbon 95 on wood.

Good explanation. Unfortunately most 2-nd-ply composite blades lack feel and top-gear power. They even create the impression of hollow powerlessness when hitting hard.

is there a "pro" version of this blade (with silver stamp like this)?