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Imago 
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i am using vega japan... no complaints and it performs as expected as a grippy mid hard sponge esn rubber.
But i promise... xiom comes out with ONE more vega omega or sigma rubber in next 3 months... i will stop using xiom permanently. enough of bad marketing gimmicks !!! Xiom is in line to be the next Butterfly...loosing customer confidence!! |
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You guys have the same conept with Samsung S5 and iPhone 6  ? |
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Posted: 07/26/2013 at 9:37am |
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And what do Samsung and Xiom have in common?????
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But you left out Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Sony and so on I doubt this is a Korean thing |
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to mee it loosk like they are jsut trying to saturate the market. and provide more variation within their product range. if we look at how many different rubbesr they had a year or two ago it wouldnt be very high.. look at how many different rubbers other companies have... xiom is doing what any other company has done... i think is a bit silly saying that if they bring out any more rubbers what would be the end of you buying from them....
and we can all agree that xiom is pretty much the youngest company out there. so as they get their hands on more and more tech the more stuff they will pump out to keep up. like my Transport manager Lecturer says CYAAAT Cover Your Arse At All Times which is what xiom are doing my covering a varied range of products to satisfly as many consulmers as possible. this is their way of having a viable form of profit gain
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Everything but Omega V thread.
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Most smart consumer product companies are very careful/thoughtful with introductions new products and new versions of existing products. Introducing too many products at the same time or product updates too frequently might provide short term boost to sales, but in the long term it often backfires as it confuses consumers, especially if there isn't much difference between the different models and versions. Also, introducing many new products (without proper testing and consumer feedback) makes them more vulnerable to bringing poor products to the market, which can hurt the company's reputation ... bad news travels very fast. Additionally, having too many sku's (many might be low volume and slow moving) is not necessarily good for the distributors who may need to keep all the different rubbers and blades in the inventory, which becomes expensive to carry and cumbersome to manage for small companies, plus it increases the risk of inventory obsolescence. |
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perhaps, the sales of previously released products has leveled off so they decided to introduce new ones.. this is a possibility
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Dear Omega Tour V owners,
Let the Gin out of the bottle and reveal the rubber's secrets, please. Do convince me to purchase a sheet of Omega Tour V on FH. Regards,  |
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from http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-rubber-xiom-omega-v-tour-tt96042337#.UhEj8OaJCS8:
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Could anyone from experience compare the Omega V Pro vs Tour (except hardness), or if you have tried either variants, share your thoughts please. Thanks :)
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ive got tour jsut waiting for pro to arive
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I tried both a couple of months ago when I was in China. Both in max boosted with haifu seamoon oil. I liked the V Pro alot better it felt more stable and spinny more similar to IV PRO/ASIA. The Tour felt mushy and weird. Maybe the booster did not completely dry but I didn't like it.
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Im really enjoying Omega V Tour right now... between Vega Japan and MX-P
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Could you elaborate in what way? Hardness? |
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I think that the control with Omega V is like MX-P and not super reactive with spin. And the ability to generate spin and speed is very easy just like MX-P. But once you dig into the sponge, then the feeling is very much like Vega Japan. Super easy to create spin and speed and adequate in the short game. My short game and control is very poor already so my statement may be invalid. But it works for me. Just my thoughts....
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To me Vega Japan, at lower gears, is pretty much not a lively rubber. Is this the case with Omega V / V Tour ?
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i felt it was lively, when I wanted it to be...
Idk...maybe ill post a club match vid so u guys can see my play
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Here is another pretty comprehensive review of Omega V Pro (in russian, so use google translate to read). The reviewer also preferred the Pro version to the Tour (said Tour was too fast, too low throw, etc), while Pro was comparable to T05FX and pretty easy to generate spin, especially on low speed shots. |
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that's the main reason I don't use their rubbers anymore... very annoying how they release so many variations practically at the same time
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For my playing style - all-around 2 winged looper
For 4H, Sigma Pro 2 2.0 compared to Ten 05 2.1:
Sponge appears to be very similar
A little more tacky topsheet
Overall - better control
Better control on pushes
Better control on blocking
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I recently got Tour Max for FH and Pro 2.0 for BH. Previously had been happy with Omega IV pro Max FH and Omega IV Asia Max BH for last few years. I put the new rubbers on a new Tibhar Stratus Powerwood, same as the older rubbers. I was playing a cup match and lost the first match easily using my regular bat (TSPW with OIV Pro/Asia) - admittedly the older rubbers were not in the best condition being around 15-18m old and needed replacing - I didn't realise how much - I decided to play with the new setup in my remaining matches not having played with it before and won them both in 3 straight, against good players where the match would normally be closer.
Taking into account the age of the older rubbers I'd been using, the improvement was unreal, the Tour has upgraded power and the topsheet is also improved giving better spin, serves were fizzing. I believe these attributes are still improved over a new sheet of OIV Pro. Tour Sponge is slightly softer than OIV Pro, throw is medium, maybe slightly higher than OIV Pro - The amazing thing is that the touch and short game have better control - the marketing hinted at this; "Amazing precision on passive shots" Yesterday I was playing a good aggressive looper using T05 with Schlager Carbon, he looped hard four times to my forehand, I chopped 4 back in a row, he netted the 5th loop. Id never have done this with the Omega IV Pro. I like to mix up my game and fall back to chop occasionally. Smashing did take a bit of getting used to because of the extra power of The OV Tour but is an easy adjustment. Loops fizzed with spin and looping was a breeze. Blocks felt crisp. The OV Pro in 2mm to me feels like very slightly firmer sponge than OV Tour but hard to distinguish. Its certainly firmer than my old sheet of OIV pro but I think the sponge does soften with age. OIV Asia has harder sponge than OIV Tour and Pro. OV Pro has a higher throw than IV Asia, better control overall for looping and short game - spin maybe a tad higher but not a major difference. Enough power without feeling too bouncy like Vega Pro or Sigma Euro. IV Asia is king for blocking still with its super firm sponge but the OV Pro feels like a better allrounder. I'm happy with both rubbers and recommend anyone wanting an upgrade from previous Xiom Rubbers to try them. I got mine from TTNPP. Edited by riker71 - 11/18/2013 at 7:47am |
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is Tour the hardest version? how hard is it compared to m1?
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Can someone compare Sigma 2 Pro vs OV Tour? Thanks.
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I think that Vega china is part of the Vega series because it is a little less quality and less speed, spin, etc. Where as Tau is higher quality for more advanced players. I think Xiom products are great and better than Palio as far as tacky tensors, but agree they have a lot of products.
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I've recently been comparing three 4th gen 47.5 degree rubbers:
Physical characteristics of the OVT have been described by others earlier: it is a heavy (like MX-P & M1) rubber with a softer topsheet than the other two and a sponge with slightly smaller pores. Basic impression: I've been very impressed with the Omega V Tour.
OVT offers T05-like (& not MX-P or M1-like) power but with a 47.5 deg sponge and much better control than T05. It is a great close-to-the-table rubber (on 5-ply all-wood blades) or an excellent mid-distance rubber if using faster composite blades. It is easier to match the OVT to a wider variety of blades as compared to the MX-P and M1, which are a bit too much on bouncy carbon-based composite blades (Viscaria, TB-ALC, TB-ZLC etc) or 7-ply all-wood blades for < 2300 mortals due to their power. Lastly, I've found that for most players using 47.5 degree sponge rubbers, 2.0 sponge is more than sufficient for great spin and arc. I don't notice much difference between MX-P (1.9-2.0) & MX-P max. This does not apply to Tenergy or other softer sponged rubbers (in which max sponge is required). Edited by slevin - 12/13/2013 at 3:11pm |
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Thank you slevin :) Do you find that as it is softer than MX-P and M1, it has more control? Have you tried OVT on the backhand side? If you have, do you like it? Obviously this is a slightly newer rubber so there is some bias, but how would you honestly compare this with the modern tensors of today? A huge leap forward? Or a minor improvement compared to those of 1Q, T05, MX-P etc.. Thanks in advance also mate :)
Edit: Does the rubber thickness you use feel like it changes the speed/power/spin sufficiently to notice a small difference? Edited by SmackDAT - 12/13/2013 at 5:45pm |
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