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Roger Stillabower 
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I been watching most of the games and it certainly appears to me that the officials are calling a lot of the serves, I wished they would just let them play.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:10am |
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Can not find any info about this player, LI Tianyu.
(When only 16 players left, he is still there. In position 12.)
ITTF and Rating's Central do not have this player's info.
Is he in CNT B team? Edited by skip3119 - 07/05/2013 at 11:11am |
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:24am |
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The ball was higher up on Tim's palm than one would expect but I couldn't see why it became the focus of the refereeing. It was hard to see what if any advantage what was giving Tim and the goal is to prevent the toss from starting in the fingers.. I also couldn't distinguish between what Tim did when he was faulted and what he did when he was not. In in any case, I doubt it would have changed the result, but I think the nitpicking by the refs made Tim's behavior inevitable.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:26am |
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If Tim could have distinguished between what he did when the calls were made and what he did when the calls were not made, it would have been easier for him not to show the ball.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:30am |
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Round of 16 features Shiono vs. the very impressive Yuan Xiaojie, and Wang Zhen vs. Wang Qingliang...not betting on it, but we could see an upset or close battle in one of those.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:35am |
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Don't bet on it - you would definitely lose your money in the latter as Wang Zhen destroys everyone in North America comfortably - I mean, Wang Qingliang lost to Wenzhang Tao who I do not consider on the same level as Wang Zhen. The former might be interesting but only because both players do not know each other.
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Tao Wenzhang beat WZ at Baltimore in 2011, and has recent wins over Fan Zhendong and Xu Chenhao. I do still think Zhen and Shiono will pull out the wins, but one or both could be surprisingly close, esp. Yuan vs Shiono
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Tao Wenzhang beat WZ at Baltimore in 2011.
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Yes indeed.
At his age, Tao should have improved a lot - between 2011 and now.
Oops, Tao made negative progress, while WZ, the much older player, made huge positive progress.
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I understand what you're saying. But most of the time it's just speculation. For example, if you speak face to face with Qi Wei or Guo Hao, you can believe they are under 21. I'm pretty sure Qi Wei is only 18, and I have no problem believing it. I think he's still in high school or just graduated. Just because they have muscular cores and legs, that's from table tennis training constantly. If a player hits puberty at any kind of normal time, he's going to be pretty built by his late teens because of the work he puts in. Especially if you are northern chinese. Yuan Xiaojie is the only one I didn't believe... I thought that guy was late 20's early 30's when I first saw him play. But having two knee straps might have added to the illusion.
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I know for a fact that many of the players do indeed have understated ages. However, in many cases they are still eligible for some of the events, i.e they are entered in U21 and are actually 19 but say 17 etc. Many of the players are pretty open about it once you get to know them. But assassin made a really bad choice to name SPECIFIC people based purely on speculation. |
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In my best estimate Qi Wei is in his early 20s. Yuan Xiaojie looks like he is 30 years old. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him in U21 competition.
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Why? Is it based purely on speculation?
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Yes it's speculation because you'd think they'd verify ages of the competitors.
So it's B.S talk by coaches or spectators vs official documents stating their age. If they don't verify ages then the players who lie should be penalized and the organizers seriously need to get their act together.
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Again, it's a judgment better made if you've ever had a conversation with the guy. There's no way Qi Wei is in his 20's.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 2:29pm |
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I have talked to him quite a few times.
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Li Tianyu just beat Chen Hongtao in U-21 event.
Still can not find any info about this player, Li Tianyu.
Does anyone know his Chinese name?
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Only table one stream is working.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 3:02pm |
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Same here. Table 2 is not working.
Missed Tao Wenzhang's match on table 2.
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beeray1 said:
"Yuan Xiaojie is the only one I didn't believe... I thought that guy was late 20's early 30's when I first saw him play. But having two knee straps might have added to the illusion. "
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According to RC, Yuan Xiaojie, played in "Chinese Clubs Championship" in 2006 - that's 7 years ago.
Unbelievable, he is in U-21 event. I buy beeray1's arguement. The guy is not that young now.
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Btw Yuan Xiaojie played in 3 tourneys here in the US, he remains unbeaten. |
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 4:18pm |
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That's my point - these people are there in person and observing them - it's not like they are far away watching them on TV like myself. If we can't reasonably discuss these things anymore, it sounds more to me like censorship. |
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Based on the statement " Zhang Xiangjing, Qi Wei and Guo Hao were some of names mentioned as looking too old to play in the junior teams last tuesday." I assumed he's just speculating and has no concrete info.
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Posted: 07/05/2013 at 4:34pm |
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WQL was in position to force a 6th but let the 8-3 lead slip
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Down goes Ryan Jenkins ...
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To who? It says he won 4-1 |
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Was that against Theriault? ITTF page is not loading for me. Big win for him if so. Primorac is gonna lose to this Japanese guy I think, its looking good for the Wang Zhen guessers.
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Yang Ce is obviously a very experienced player from China with a lot of good wins from the past.....
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Yeah, but WZ was in a position to get a 4-0 win but let the 7-3 lead slip. The Winner of the TW and WZ match is going to take this. |
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The site is killing me - not responding to any of my inquiries. |
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