Tenergy 80-FX coming...

What, are you saying i liked FX on BH and now I don't? 

Because I came here for advice, and this is what I got. I wish somebody had told me from beginning to go with a TBS + had sponge. I really do. It cost me a year learning strokes that were WRONG and I had to fix. 

as for libertarians ( I appreciate you associating me with libertarians instead of tea party), calling them extremist is really like calling yourself a brainwashed government tool. What happened with this country and the statue of Liberty? When did Liberty become a dirty word and libertarian an insult? These are the only people who never approve the initiation of force and confiscation of private property for the 'greater good of the state'. 

Edited by assiduous - 11/19/2013 at 10:26am

Assiduous,
Whats up with you and always bringing in politics into this forum?
You should really go and join a political forum too (if you haven't yet)

Edit,

I see on page 2 that other people start politics....

Guys, this is a TT forum
I'm sure you can find some other words to use.

Agree with the BEST to TOTAL CRAP, just like that. I find that too funny.
And chances are - 2 years from now, there will be some other favourite one


Edited by ZApenholder - 11/19/2013 at 10:34am

hookumsnivy wrote: That's a very silly generalization and we should leave politics out of this forum.

the_theologian wrote: It will be quite interesting if this comes full circle, and you reach a point where you start slowing down your setup.

Edited by NextLevel - 11/19/2013 at 10:57am

I think I've heard something about May.

http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1835

I played a new sheet of T80FX 2.1 on BH today. Compared to the other FX versions it felt ok with an "allround" feel. A bit faster than T05FX with really good blocking feel. Not as spinny as T05FX but close. T64FX yes T64FX is quicker compared to T80FX off the bounce. It's an ok BH rubber in the Tenergy family that some will find appealing but not my first choice. T05FX suits my game best for BH. with yes T64FX for FH.

I don't understand the concept of T80FX but it's here and some will love it.

Edited by frogger - 05/11/2014 at 11:25pm

Been thinking about trying the 80 FX, but I love how the Baracuda 2mm. plays on my b/h with the PG7/HL3. Hard for me to give up the Baracuda 2mm after trying so many others for my b/h.

People in my club are using it already (since the end of April).  Pretty good rubber.

Copying my initial impressions on it from another thread:

Now I have tried 80-FX (and I played a lot with 05-FX) so I will throw in my two cents - and remember those are just first practice impressions. It was glued on BBC Blaster, all-wood OFF blade with hinoki outer plies.

1) throw angle is about the same I think but only on strong strokes. On weaker strokes indeed 80-FX throws a bit lower

2) speed. I think T-80 FX is on average a little slower than T-05 FX. Even on fast spinny power loops I do not feel than T-80 FX is faster. Perhaps on pushing and blocking but I think it is simply more catapult than I wanted which requires some readjustment.

3) overall control. It is probably better for T-80 FX but not in short game. I think that the transition from dead-ish slow response to catapult is more prominent with T-80 FX and that makes for poorer control in the slow-middle range. Same goes for pushing/blocking.

4) spin - surprisingly enough T-80 FX is not that great there. I think it is on par with T-80 but worse than T-05 and T-05 FX.

5) Looping on BH is very nice, not so great (for me) on FH. It seems that T-80 FX is more demanding than T-80 in terms of attack angle. Little mistake and the ball flies very high and/or long. However, when it goes on the table it seems a bit more deceiving to the opponent since the spin is different from other Tenergies. However if your opponent generally underestimates your spin then it won't do you any good since T-80 FX produces less of it for the same swing, not more.

6) power looping is pretty good - consistent on both sides. I liked BH better though. The best feeling I had with T-80 FX was when I power looped on BH from 2-3 steps away...

7) ball grab is at the same great level as T-05 FX and T-80. Very reliable.

8) one unfortunate thing is that of all Tenergies I tried - T-05, T-05 FX, T-64, T-64 FX, T-80, T-25, T-80 FX (quite a few as you can see), this one seems the worst in bottoming out. Not sure why... could be that I have it on the wrong blade. Will move it to a slightly harder and faster blade.

Overall, I liked it more on FH but not because it works much better there, but because I play more with my BH side and so I realized I needed a rubber there which I trust more, and have more experience with. Does not mean I make more mistakes there than on FH, just that on FH I can afford a slightly higher error level, that's all. Once again - this is not a knock on T-80 FX, this is simply about not being used to its properties yet.

So far, however, I do not see it being what I hoped for - better control and softness from FX sponge but same reliability and power as T-80. Softness seems to be there, but not better control. Power is sometimes present but often it is less controlled and rubber often bottoms out too fast for my taste.

suds79 wrote: JimT wrote: 8) one unfortunate thing is that of all Tenergies I tried - T-05, T-05 FX, T-64, T-64 FX, T-80, T-25, T-80 FX (quite a few as you can see), this one seems the worst in bottoming out. Not sure why... could be that I have it on the wrong blade. Will move it to a slightly harder and faster blade. I'm going to just come out and ask it because the term is thrown around all the time. What does bottoming out specifically mean? I have no idea. Thanks.

It means that when you hit the ball pretty hard, the rubber gives way too much and basically the ball penetrates too much and is being played not by sponge/topsheet but by the blade as well (to a larger degree than usual) which often results in a much weaker bounce than you'd expected.

AndySmith wrote: But the thing that made my mind up was the gearing. The short game was nice and controlled, but everything more forceful was a LOT more flyaway. Massively elastic, non-linear. Combining this off/on behaviour with a hinoki outer ply was an exercise in frustration for me.

I agree - non-linearity here is higher and more frustrating than with other Tenergies. However, a lot of players are quite happy with highly non-linear rubbers, such as fast ESN tensors...

I will try it on one other blade and then, if it doesn't work out, will sell it to the next testing enthusiast. So far it is in virtually pristine condition.

is 80fx any good bc the "not like tenergy" made me hesitant to buy it