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stiltt
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assiduous
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I agree with all of the above, except the power. I played with 500 though. It is DEFINITELY more powerful than Rhyzm. More spiny as well. Very jumpy. Maxx has nothing in common with Rhyzm. Feel, spin, trajectory, everything is different. It is very close to Bluefire and Evolution. Another flavor of those fast, spiny, jumpy rubbers. Has nothing unique at all. Don't get me wrong, it is a high quality rubber, but if u never play it u never missed anything. They main shortcoming with respect to Rhyzm is the control. Rhyzm will land the ball from any point of the room. I don't understand how it works, but the ball just goes where you swing. All of those jumpy rubbers they go UP, and eventually down, but that makes for a difficult calculation when away from the table. With Rhyzm you just swing forward as hard as you can, and put just a little BEND to clear the net and you will make it. Rhyzm truly is an amazing rubber when it comes to consistency. I don't even know what to compare it with.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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seguso
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no comparison with joola x-plode? x-plode is widely used at very high level in my country. It is a fast, medium-soft, medium-low throw, fairly spin insensitive rubber. with poor spin I'd say (easy to counterloop)..
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DHSHurricane
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Rhyzm is awesome. I play with max and 2.0. I switched from H3 on my forehand and I never played better. fair, hard sponge and a decent topsheet. not too fast as the Stiga rubbers, and very much control. not too expensive. I get a sheet for €32, seeing tenergy is an outdated rubber and costs €57 here
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assiduous
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x-plode was popular in my club as well before Rhyzm came up. The club owner (currently 2300) used x-plode and switched to Rhyzm and every single Joola user followed him to the extent that he doesn't even carry xplode any more (hes a joola dealer too).
X-plode is between Maxx and Rhyzm on the scale where Maxx has superior speed and spin but Rhyzm has superior control. However I still think that Maxx is closer to Evolution and Bluefire in feel and behavior, and X-plode is closer to Rhyzm. Maxx is rubber where you want to win the point with a crushing blow, where the speed and spin are overwhelming. Rhyzm is a rubber that is best used for winning points with consistence. Actually one of the shortages of the natural predictable path of Rhyzm is that my opponents come up with phenomenal blocks too often. It is intuitive for them as well.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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mg
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No way xplode is a medium-soft rubber, rather medium- hard, the sensitive version is rather soft, I didn't like it.
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AndySmith
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The older joola rubbers (express, xplode) all have lower-grip topsheets IMO (when compared to the lastest ESN generation). The spin was there if you had a nice, clean technique to use the sponge mechanically. I lack that - sounds like a lot of effort - and I prefer the new gen for ease of use in a spin-type game.
You make Maxx sound like last year's overly boosted (smelly) ESN stuff (Bluefire M, Evolution), and Rhyzm sound like this year's (Bluefire JP, Tenzone Ultra). Is there a booster smell on Rhyzm or Maxx?
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assiduous
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I don't know what people mean by that. All decent rubbers smell the same to me. I think in my first year when I spent 1000 on chinese rubbers I noticed some of those had a strong smell on something, but nothing that costs more than $40 smells weird to me.
I think soft topsheet is a recipe for poor control. I don't even want to try rubbers from now on that have soft topsheet. It will be spinny as hell but for me its more important to put it on the table every time. Of the rubbers with crazy spin and high throw Tenergy and Tenzone have the best control. Bluefire, Evolution and now Maxx are definitely with inferior control, although if you tell me one is spinier than the other i wont argue with you. Rhyzm should not be compared to any of the above. I can recommend Rhyzm to every Sriver Die-Hard out there. THOU SHALL NOT LOSE CONTROL! You will gain on every measurable metric if you switch from Sriver to Rhyzm.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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ttping85
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yep Rhyzm is an outstanding rubber while Maxxx is a good rubber but nothing amazing. But it definitely has the specificity of a very soft topsheet, softer than Bluefire, Rasant or Evolution.
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You lose on one metric - weight. That is the main reason I do not use Rhyzm today. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Rhyzm wins for me on weight. Heavy shouldn't always be considered negative. just personal preference.
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assiduous
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i don't remember the weight of the old rubbers but Rhyzm is lighter than tenergy and tenzone for sure.
Hey, DHS, the best player in out club has identical setup as yours, but his Mazunov is a very old anatomic handle one, and the entire periphery of the blade is chipped from hitting the table. Ugly as hell but doesn't seem to affect his game much.
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last night I played two matches with Maxx on my FH instead of Rhyzm and the reliability of my FH went down the toilet. Occasional spectacular drives were drowned in misses by an inch or catching the net. The topsheet creates a completely different feel than Rhyzm and I got to hate it. After my last match with a high 1900 where i lost 12-10 in game 5 and all 12 lost points were on FH I just ripped the rubber off the blade and swore never to use it again. Hit me up if u want a great deal on virtually new black Maxx 500 Max
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DHSHurricane
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@assi
he is a Lucky man! Mine is fresh I am still looking for an old One. Mine is Just 102 grams. In soms way I dont deel the difference with 85 blade, It has a good balance. Does he boost his rhyzms? I die and It added an extra feel (feedback, vibration) and a deeper corking click I am thinking about setting up a rhyzm fan club;) good luck to anybody who is going to play tonight! |
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kits11326
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i guess it's a different story in my place, in our club almost every player use Joola Rubbers, and maybe 50% butterfly blade users. and during tournaments, with at least a thousand participants, 70% of the players use Joola rubber.. Maybe in your place, joola products may not be readily available? |
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is anybody tried Maxxx - P? What it's looks like?
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AndySmith
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I haven't seen it in the flesh, but I am surprised that MAXX-P has a 42.5deg sponge. I thought it would be harder. I'll ask our Joola-sponsored club members about it when I see them next. Rhyzm-P is 45deg. |
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the_theologian
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Interesting. Maybe they developed one new sponge and a new topsheet for each series? |
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AndySmith
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OK, finally returning to this issue after many months. I know sid, myself, and most of the TT world have been suffering from sleepless nights and extreme anxiety attacks because we are all desperate to know - what do Rhyzm and Maxx smell like? Well, worry no more. I have put my hand into my own pocket and bought sheets of Rhyzm 425 and Maxx 400. An expensive way of answering this question, you may think. But the price pales in comparison when you think about the cost of all those therapy sessions we've all needed to try and get past our need to know about Teh Smellzzzz. So... Rhyzm doesn't smell of anything much. Just smells of rubber. Like Tenzone Ultra. Maxx smells (quite strongly) of the booster used in the original Bluefire M range (1,2,3), and Vega Japan. |
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debraj
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way to go!!! andy rocks !!!
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yogi_bear
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do you hit more through the sponge? rhyzm is easier to use for drives. maxxx 500 behaves like some sort of non tacky chinese rubber that is hard.
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it is strange coz the maxxx 450 i received in augustus 2013 smells anything. and it was a "non to sell" version.
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Nooooooooo. This is the heart of darkness! No more uncertainty! I can't cope with it. Ahem. Anyway, this is the regular, off-the-shelf Maxx 400, and it definitely smells of Dat Tuner. Maybe the 450 is different? Maybe yours was a pre-release, untuned one? |
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FlatHitter
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Im testing maxxx-p tonight after spending a year with rhyzm 375...I have 2 training sessions under my belt, tonight is "match play"..so far, press like!
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Ah, Who gave you the shovel!
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so hijacking this thread alittle, any comparison between rhyzm and rasant grip? thinking of it on my backhand
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FlatHitter
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Well..first, rhyzm375 is a very good rubber. I spent a year or more, approx. 4 sheets worth and a lot of hours training with it. maxxx-p is also a very good rubber, not better, but a little different...first, it can spin the ball away from the table with a lot more force, 42.5 degree sponge vs. 37.5.. the "dip" at the end of the loop arch is a lot sharper, the balls land on the table. my favorite shot, is now improved...my flat hits are a fair amount quicker, and a lot lower to the net, the rubber grips the ball better! that, is a fact..serves are about the same although, I got a few more "double bouncers" with maxxx-p because of the extra grip and maybe, the harder sponge...service returns..flips..all good, perhaps a little better with maxx...loops against backspin..I sent a few long, a small adjustment will be needed. the ones that landed got blasted fairly easy unless, it was placed better. A faster brush stroke will do it,this rubber has a lot of grip!
To get the bottom line..if you are using the polyball, I dont think there is another rubber on the market that will be any better than maxxx-p...I have used butterfly TO5,.. maxx-p, has more grip, speed around the same when looping...I will be using this rubber untill the nationals in december... |
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