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Using super fast equipment won't make player learn how to swing harder and to use his own power. Coaches says that you must always use your own power and not your opponents power even in blocks you don't just put the racket in front your opponents ball but you use your own power. Also you won't be able to learn topspin against backspin balls.actually the reason behind choosing allaround blade is to determine the players style whether he is going to play defensively or a hitter or a looper because allaround blades stands in equal distance from allplaying styles so I would recommend non overpriced all around blade because after deciding which playing style he is he will change his blade to a one that is specific for his playing style so he mustn't pay so much in his beginning blade as he will buy another one later
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I agree with Beeray1, equipment is not that important long-term.  Just get anything decent to start, then try other people's paddles and find one you like.  Personally I love the Nittaku Latika.  But equipment is far less important than practice and coaching.  

If you have a decent club with a variety of styles and levels to play, at least one other person who actually wants to do drills instead of endless practice matches, and a professional coach who can correct your form and answer questions occasionally, then the only limit to your improvement is your own time and effort.  
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I honestly don't think new players should start with any sort of tensioned rubber.
And by new I mean USATT 1400 and under.

I'd say the best new setup is LKT Instinct and Dawei IQUL. If you really want a rubber that requires an active stroke..then H3.
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Originally posted by machmach_3 machmach_3 wrote:

Using super fast equipment won't make player learn how to swing harder and to use his own power. Coaches says that you must always use your own power and not your opponents power even in blocks you don't just put the racket in front your opponents ball but you use your own power. Also you won't be able to learn topspin against backspin balls.actually the reason behind choosing allaround blade is to determine the players style whether he is going to play defensively or a hitter or a looper because allaround blades stands in equal distance from allplaying styles so I would recommend non overpriced all around blade because after deciding which playing style he is he will change his blade to a one that is specific for his playing style so he mustn't pay so much in his beginning blade as he will buy another one later


The coach's point is very much worth noting. The idea with the tensored EJ's is easiest way to do the looping shot.

Think about that for a min. What does playing w/ least amount of actual skill prove? Literally like: "hey I didn't bother to learn any skills but I got this rubber that lets me loop so easy". I mean, you don't get anything for slightly better ranking as amateur, so who are you fooling?
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Actually there is a body of thought (e.g. Stellan Bengtsson, but others too) that says beginners should learn to play with something in the same general ballpark of what they will use later on and just learn to play with it.  A lot of this depends on what you mean by beginner, though. 
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STIGA Tube Aluminum, Butterfly Schlager, Butterfly Sardius, STIGA Crystal Carbon.
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I've seen a beginner that looped like hell on his third lesson. And he started literally from zero.
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Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

STIGA Tube Aluminum, Butterfly Schlager, Butterfly Sardius, STIGA Crystal Carbon.
Could you tell me the reasoning behind your suggestion of using too-fast blades?
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Originally posted by toolie toolie wrote:

Hey, guys.

My friend is looking to start playing table tennis. He's never owned a decent blade/rubbers before -- I've recommended Mark V rubbers, and I'm just needing a good recommendation for a blade.

Any suggestions?

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Mike


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Really, the general rule is: can they reasonably keep the ball on the table w/o looking awkwardly gimpy while doing it? If not then it's too pro. Prefabs (or appropriately named training rubbers) are usually slow for good reason. The stuff they used for training at lower level (where lower level is defined as <2000) in china is like $2 a sheet. Useless you're good (ie very good by amateur standards) it doesn't really matter what you use since opponent is just going to miss anyway.
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Go to Wal-Mart and get a cheap inverted like rubber non tacky sponge like surface. Spin doesn't affect the rubber so it is easier to use. It plays almost like anti but with a little more friction. It especially works good on a slick table top surfaces (where spin stays on ball) used at a lot of recreation centers for durability. I borrowed someone's paddle the other day on a slick table and I could hit everything. It blocks heavy normal inverted spin loops very well with the proper technique.
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primorac off- is very good blade for beginers/low competition levels. I use it, and can beat people using even ALC's and tenergies. 
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Originally posted by IanMcg IanMcg wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

STIGA Tube Aluminum, Butterfly Schlager, Butterfly Sardius, STIGA Crystal Carbon.
Could you tell me the reasoning behind your suggestion of using too-fast blades?

For rubbers, he should use Joola Timeless both sides.
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