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Review: Victas koji matsushita. Mixed/Def game. |
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ejmaster
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Posted: 07/28/2013 at 7:23pm |
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After Shiono Masato's win in Japan Open i got a Victas Fl koji matsushita.
It is a 5 ply limba spruce ayous. Like a larger waldner off with its particular feeling. In short this is a fantastic blade with very nice feeling, and a lot of gears including a very good looping performance. The blade helps in everything. Rubbers were fh: baracuda 1.8 red. bh: tsp curl p1 ox black. Both rubbers were for me something new to test. To be continued... About the rubbers: Fh Baracuda. The Baracuda has a spring sponge (orange the one i got) similar to tenergies but with a different top sheet. Like a calibra spin topsheet but thicker . Here i understand joo and shiono using tenergy in Fh. It pays off at the time to be offensive instead of chinese fh rubber. Baracuda spin is good at the level of t05 and new era. I liked baracuda with fast looping. Here it is fast. At slow pace however it has less spin and speed than t05. Smashing and chop and looping is good. Bh tsp curl p1 ox. Pimples are thin so it imparts more variation to the ball than the cnt pogo rubber i usually play. Edited by ejmaster - 07/31/2013 at 8:16am |
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Masato Shiono must have changed blades. He was playing at a past US Open with a Butterfly Shibutani blade with tenergy 05 and Feint II.
CHEERS! P.S. Your Review of the Victas Matsushita does not say anything that you cannot infer from reading the box, your review is mostly about the rubbers you put on it... Everyone knows about the rubbers from other posts in this forum. Please talk about the blade. That is the theme of your post. |
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ejmaster
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gnop patience. I said to be continued...
You didn't realize because you just want to say i am here. Besides i didn't say because i do not know if shiono is using victas km right now. I have read he changes from one another between the victas and the shibutani and he uses tsp curl p4 with sponge. Btwy. I do not have my laptop with me. I posted with the celular what it is hard work to write. Note: the box is a white one with victas written in blue letters and it does not say anything. Just def and 8,400 and the name koji matsushita. In any case what it is good is someone saying in short it is a very good blade besides the manufacturer. Cheers gnop. Next try will be better. Edited by ejmaster - 07/29/2013 at 9:27am |
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I've been hitting 5 min last week with VKM. Big head, somewhat softer than BTY MP and with more explicite catapult. No doubt better than the latest Def blades from Donic and Stiga - but still lags behind the old Ylnhe 980.
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ejmaster
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I did not like def blades in the past. I played mix game with a quite old bengston classic allround. I will put some pictures.
Feeling gears and chop and catapult and looping performance are the best features about vkm. At the same level about feeling than my beloved stiga bengston but with more catapult. Fl handle is nice. Easy twiddle. Good fit and touch. The big head is something to get used to. It works well. Edited by ejmaster - 07/29/2013 at 9:49am |
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ejmaster
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Well. After several days the vkm feels good. Adictive and a fun challenge with the baracuda and the tsp p1 ox.
I do not feel like playing neither the bengston nor the lsw with cnt pogo. There is a new world of possibilities about the vkm. I am getting used to the rubbers with the awsome vkm blade support. I compared head to head the bengsston with pogo with the vkm with p1 and though the block chop at fast topspin is harder with the p1 without any doubt the p1 is quite more trouble to opponent than the pogo. The pogo now feels doing little hurt. The vkm helps a lot to handle the p1. About the baracuda it is taking time to serve at the same level as new era but it is getting there day after day. Smashing and looping with baracuda good. Blocking to get used. Overall good performance with baracuda. Scoring better with the vkm bar/p1 than the bengsston with nera/pogo and still way to go. More gears to play and variation with the vkm. Edited by ejmaster - 07/30/2013 at 1:09pm |
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bluebucket
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I've heard a lot of very positive talk about this blade
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ejmaster
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It is a monster blade. If they design one with same flex feeling to play inverted i also would get one to play inverted. Allround control feeling power.
One of the best feeling blades i ever tested. Imo lot better than korbel/virtuoso/rapscallion... What a blade. Edited by ejmaster - 07/30/2013 at 1:30pm |
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ejmaster
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Today i read about the vkm in tabletennis11 and i found this is a hand made and created individually blade using high quality japanese cedar plying in a complex manufacturing process. It seems and feels so.
The plying and particularly the second ply looks and feels very good quality. But the funny part is that there is a review by Oliver 5 stars saying 'what a great blade' and this is the same feeling i got in my last post saying 'what a blade'. Edited by ejmaster - 07/31/2013 at 8:14am |
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ejmaster
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Back to cnt pogo. At the end it pays off for me the solidness of cnt pogo more than the hurting reversal game from p1r.
I am using the cnt pogo in bengston classic allround and Lsw. The Lsw is getting the best scores. At the beginning the pogo felt a little hard in the Lsw but now it feels right. Chopping against fast topspin also better an more controlled with cnt pogo. Edited by ejmaster - 08/03/2013 at 11:54am |
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RedMan
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I've been using my VKM for over a year now and love it. But I'm a chopper were as you sound more like a blocker. The Rakza 7 works very well with this blade. Not the fastest when countering from off the table but great control.
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FH: Donic Bluefire JP03 in 2.0 Black BH: TSP P1r Curl 1.5-1.7 Red |
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ejmaster
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I love the vkm too. I play chop with the bh and i need to because my playing partner knows how to play against lp very well. And he topspin/drives hard and slow and he also has a good bh so one can not rely on blocking but better chopping one step further from table. That is why i felt lately i am not so solid with the p1rox as the cntpogoox. Though the pogo is ox i am used to chop with it but the p1 felt less consistent. It is not the vkm but the rubbers. The baracuda has less placement precision but here i play an active fh so i do not feel so much difference. I am trading more power looping by less control. Chopping is also better with nera but the fh play is more off. So neither the p1 nor the baracuda play for me better than the pogo nera. Besides the baracuda is quite heavy rubber With the big head about the vkm the whole blade set up is noticeable more heavy weight than the Lsw with nera/pogo. Have to find a better rubber match to the vkm. As it is now i score better with the Lsw with nera pogo. The best way to realize details is playing against good players and compare at the same time blade and rubbers through time. Edited by ejmaster - 08/10/2013 at 6:37am |
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The reason i play ox is that i tend to play closer to the table because i want to be fh offensive.
Because my playing partner knows how to play off against the pips i need the ox to absorb hard openings being closer to the table. About further distance from the table and faster moves getting closer and further with a more chop variation game lp with sponge offers better game. Have to move faster and play further from the table with good chop variation to take advantage about the lp with sponge. About the idea of improving the lp off game i think it is something marginal against a good player. My experience. Edited by ejmaster - 08/04/2013 at 12:24pm |
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Complicated review. Today back and better with the vkm and baracuda/p1rox. Worst playing and score with the Lsw nera/pogo.
Today felt to play more determined with the vkm and goes sharper and better than the Lsw. Need more time. |
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ejmaster now with what material you're playing ?
after of months how feel the victas koji matsushita? |
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ejmaster
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Main change was to go back to the t05 in fh. Baracuda was playable but imo not so good as the t05.
Vkm t05(1,9)/p1rox. Mixed game. MM t05/srvfx. Main set up. |
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haggisv
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I'll be interested to know how the new Offensive version of this blade compares the the original. Hopefully it's just a faster version with the same feel and control.
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i received my koji matsushita today and it's only 81 grams! weird
the craftsmanship is a bit lacking; noting the joining of plies isn't seamless at a couple places on the edge |
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This is one of the few blades which I liked from the first hit. Mine is 86 gm.It has a great feel and flex but not much hollow feeling. I only played with it 3 times and I am very new to chopping/modern defense style, so I cannot just comment on it's defensive capabilities. On the other hand, I had a great time at attacking by landing powerful loops from forehand side and this blade has a great control and feel to it. I probably attacked more than my usual inverted setup because of the new found confidence. The extra flex helps to land my loops from distance. Now I need to learn to chop properly with this blade.
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Tibhar Samsonov Alpha FH: Grip-S Europe BH: Rakza7 soft Victas Koji Matsushita FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Feint long III https://www.facebook.com/groups/5439549367/ |
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Does anybody have any firsthand experience with any of the other Victas blades?
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Bump: VKM users, what do you have on your forehands? Mine FINALLY made it to the US after being in japan for two weeks, so now I need to order something for the forehand. I could just default to tenergy, but I've never chopped with any of them. I could just get vega pro, but where's the fun in that? I don't know if it will be fast enough for H3 to work out well.
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I recently got a VKM after using a Defplay Senso for about 2 years. I have been using Vega Japan 2.0mm on the Defplay, so I decided to stick with that when I got the VKM. I am very pleased with the combination. I feel like I can do everything with the VKM that I could do with the Defplay, but I find smashing better with the VKM. This is probably because the the VKM is stiffer than the Defplay.
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Blade: Victas Koji Matsushita FL
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Any of the Tenergy is fine , VKM is a good blade little bit on the soft side.
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If you chop a lot, the Victas 401 is a good option (I use this myself now)... it's very spinny although it lacks some speed on that blade. |
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What does EJ mean?
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EJ is an abbreviation for Equipment Junkie. It is used to describe players who are always switching the kinds/brands/thickness of rubbers or the blades they use. Often they switch after only a few sessions even before they have a chance to adjust to the change. Most are switching in order to solve a problem in their game which would likely be better addressed with more practice rather than new equipment. Some just enjoy testing out different stuff and figuring out how it affects their play. If a player always seems to come to the table with 3 different rackets, tests each during warm-up, and then decides which one he will play, you are pretty sure he is an EJ. EJ is the noun form. EJing is the verb form. Mark - Who would be an EJ if he was not such a cheapskate.
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vanjr
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EJs are like the guy dating numerous beautiful women who is not ready to settle down and marry one.
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I've always thought of them more like a fat kid being unable to decide what candy he wants, so he eats them all and ends up tasting none!
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vanjr
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Exact same thing! |
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