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I've become interested Hinoki Carbon Blades and to learn as much as I can, I started a master-list of Hinoki Composite Blades. If you can add any blades or make corrections of any kind I would be appreciative Hinoki Carbon Blades (89 Total) Adidas Radix Impress Adidas Radix Express Adidas Radix Ultimate Adiddas Fibertec Extreme Adidas Strike Carbon Andro Kinetic Supreme Zylon/Kiso Hinoki Off- Andro Hiloom Avalox J-Aramid Butterfly Schlager Carbon Butterfly Schlager Carbon Light Butterfly Primorac Carbon Butterfly Sardius Butterfly Photino Butterfly Photino Light Butterfly Gergley 21 Butterfly Kong Linghui Special Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon Butterfly Kreanga Carbon Butterfly Iolite NEO Butterfly Reygundo Butterfly Cofferlait Butterfly Supreme Speed Butterfly Iolite Butterfly Gergley T5000 Buttterfly Gergley Alpha Butterfly Keyshot Alpha Butterfly Ishilon Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 (jpen) Butterfly Chinese ULC (cpen) Butterfly Quetzal Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+ Darker 7P 2A Carbon Darker Arly-Carbon Darker Esteem Darker BX-700 a.k.a. Center Carbon Dawei GTS Donic Li Ping Kitex Donic Carbo System Off- Donic Carbo System OFF Donic Waldner Carbopower Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed Donic Waldner Legend Carbon Donic Persson Dotec Off Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki Dr. Neubauer Hercules Joola Markovic Joola Rossi Force Joola Rossi Emotion Joola TPE Fight Joola TPE Perform Juic Hinoki Carbon III Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power Mizuno World Champion NeoTTec Hinoki Carbon Nexy Spartacus Nexy Airang Nexy Sahara Nexy Oscar Nittaku Alulass Nittaku Noveliar G Carbon Sanwei HC-1 Sanwei HC-2 Sanwei HC-3 Sanwei HC-4 Sanwei HC-5 Sanwei HC-6 Sanwei HC-7 TSP Hino Carbon Power TSP Hino Carbon Speed Tibhar Inca Victas Quartet Speed Xiom Strato Xiom Ignito Xiom Axelo Xiom Speed Xiom Control (All +, Off -, Off) Xiom Zetro Quad XVT ZL Hinoki Yinhe Kiso Hinoki Woven Carbon DL-1 Yinhe Bogen Yinhe Z7-VF Yinhe Z5-VF 729/Dynasty Hinoki Carbon 729/LKT Transformer N*1 Carbon 729/LKT Zebra Carbon 729/LKT 368 Hinoki Carbon Edited by Toprank - 08/11/2014 at 5:50pm |
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Donic Waldner Legend Carbon
Xiom Zetro Quad NeoTTec Hinoki Carbon AVX J-Aramid |
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Thanks DrB...ADDED!
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You left out Butterfly Cofferlait (ALC), and Butterfly Supreme Speed (ALC)
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Adidas Radix Impress, Adidas Radix Express, Adidas Radix Ultimate, Adidas Fibertec Extreme
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LKT Transformer N°1 Carbon
LKT Zebra Carbon Butterfly Iolite Butterfly Supreme Speed (cf liulin04)
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Butterfly Gergely T5000
Butterfly Gergely Alpha Butterfly Keyshot Alpha Buterfly Ishlion Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN) Victas Quartet Speed Darker Esteem Nexy Sahara Nexy Oscar Adidas Strike Carbon Cornilleau HinoCarbon OFF+ Donic Persson Dotec OFF Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power (and maybe Aggrex 44 Carbon, not sure about that) Mizuno World Champion XIOM Axelo |
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I love hinoki-carbon blades!!!
You can add to your list: Yinhe Venus V-1 Yinhe Venus V-2 Yinhe T-1 to T-8 (cypress) Donic Carbo System Off+ Donic Waldner Carbopower Joola Markovic (same construction as Joola Emotion) Sanwei HC-1 to HC-7 Andro Hiloom Andro Treiber Z Darker Aryl-carbon I am not sure about Donic Persson Dotec OFF. I played with it and I don't remember it having hinoki outers nor carbon.
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Thanks for the additions MG, Yogi, Olio, TTping!
89 and counting.
Edited by Toprank - 09/23/2013 at 11:34am |
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Treiber Z should be a koto blade
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BTF Innerforce T5000...
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Rosewood NCT V - Nimbus Soft / T64
OSP Expert - Galaxy Moon / Xiom Vega PRO |
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Nittaku hinoblaze.
Sorry, it's not a carbon but well an all wood blade. Edited by kakapo - 12/26/2013 at 2:17pm |
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Isn't Innerforce Limba?
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729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1
Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
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All Innerforce blades have the following construction: Limba - limba - fiber - ayous - fiber - limba - limba So no hinoki in there.
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Add the new Dr. Neubauer Hercules to your list: Kiso Hinoki with some sort of fiber. I do not know the exact composition since it has a wooden edge guard so you cannot see the plies. Excellent feel and touch. I'd say it is All in slow and touch shots but with a nice catapult when you loop hard with the speed then being more on the Off- side. Best blade if have ever used for anti.
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The Donic Dotec Waldner Hinoki is a 3-ply hinoki blade (no carbon).
there is the Donic Dotec Waldner Carbon but its outer are not hinoki. |
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Just updated the list. I deleted the couple that didn't fit the bill and added the ones that were mentioned.
91 and counting...
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My T7 is Arylate Carbon Cypress. I still like it a lot...
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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The T series actually uses Juniper instead of Cypress.
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None of the Yinhe t series are made from hinoki
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can't we say juniper and cypress are close enough to hinoki to play the same role in the designer's mind? so they could fit the bill here? I know purists will not agree but there is some room to argue that way isn't it?
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Sanwei King of Carbon
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Thanks a lot for all your work. I went quickly trough the list and made some spelling corrections and comments in red: Butterfly Gergley 21 Gergely 21 Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon Amultart ZL Carbon Butterfly
Gergley T5000 Gergely T5000 Buttterfly
Gergley Alpha Butterfly Ishilon Ishlion Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Ryu Seung Min ZLC Cornilleau
Hinotec OFF+ Cornileau
Hino Carbon OFF+ These 2 Cornilleau are the same blades. The correct name is cornilleau hinotec off+ carbon Donic Persson Dotec Off I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon. |
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Thanks again for the input. Tough call on the T Series blades. From what I can tell Hinoki is specific type of Cypress as well as Juniper is in the Cypress family. All being in the same family, is that enough to be classified as hinoki. I just decided to keep this list as just Hinoki so I eliminated the T Series blades. If there are other Cypress and Juniper blades on this list let me know, as I can take them off as well.
Ttping- Thanks for the spelling corrections and other contributions. I think I fixed them. Ttprof- Anywhere you can confirm the blade is Hinoki? It doesn't look hinoki from the pics that I've seen.
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I agree with fatt. The Yinhe T-series really play similar to hinoki-carbon, enough to be on the list.
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No one has posted about the Avalox J-Arimid, I believe it has Hinoki outer ply.
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it's already in the list just spelled this way:
AVX J-Aramid |
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mg
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Well, according to the official Donic website the blade composition is
0,6 Hinoki Dotec 0,6 Koto 5,0 Dotec-Balsa 0,6 Koto Dotec 0,6 Hinoki The Dotec should be some kind of synthetic fiber, maybe there is no carbon in it, but it seems to be a composite blade with hinoki outers for shure, same applies to the Waldner Dotec Hinoki. Dotec technology is not only about the strange handle, it implies also composite layers if you think that you can trust Donic on this:)
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