Hinoki Carbon Blades

LKT 368 HINOKI CARBON

Edited by suds79 - 01/09/2014 at 9:39am

When I hear Hinoki, I think of the Kiso Hinoki blade, not the others in the cypress family. Especially some of the Chinese so called Kinoki don't feel much like Kiso Hinoki... they feel much harder.

mg wrote: ttping85 wrote: Donic Persson Dotec Off  I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon.   Well, according to the official Donic website the blade composition is 0,6 Hinoki Dotec 0,6 Koto 5,0 Dotec-Balsa 0,6 Koto Dotec 0,6 Hinoki   The Dotec should be some kind of synthetic fiber, maybe there is no carbon in it, but it seems to be a composite blade with hinoki outers for shure, same applies to the Waldner Dotec Hinoki. Dotec technology is not only about the strange handle, it implies also composite layers if you think that you can trust Donic on this:)

You are completely right about the composition. I never checked the composition on this blade, just analyzed my experience with it and made the mistake because it doesn't play at all like most hinoki-composite blades on the list here. It does not even play like other blades with hinoki outers. The outer ply didn't even look like hinoki if I remember well.

About the Dotec I also didn't see any extra layer in the composition. Donic talks about a technology without edges but does not talk about a fiber. Maybe it is something similar to fineline blades...

Edited by ttping85 - 01/10/2014 at 5:09am

OK: what's like a Joola Rossi Emotion, but a bit faster (& not Arirang)?

Charlie (BBC) makes wonderful Hinoki-Carbon-blades

ttping85 wrote: Donic Persson Dotec Off  I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon.

it has hinoki but no carbon

piligrim wrote: ttping85 wrote: Donic Persson Dotec Off  I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon. it has hinoki but no carbon

Edited by Toprank - 04/03/2014 at 4:59pm

add the Darker BX-700 (Center Carbon), it's the best blade i've ever used! super thick hinoki layers + 1 layer of carbon.

Toprank wrote: tuco wrote: so what are carbon hinoki blades good for?  are they primarily hitting/blocking blades for use with short pips?  which of these hinoki carbon blades are best for short pips play?   I've never used short pips so I don't know what you look for, but I have a fascination with hinoki carbon's because they have have a soft feel in the short game (the hinoki) and stiff looping power from the hinoki and carbon working together. I would say most hinoki carbons are great for looping and the offensive game.

slevin wrote: tuco wrote: However, hinoki does have its drawbacks.  It's bouncy and thereby control suffers especially in the short game department. So, which Hinoki Carbon blades, besides the Joola Rossi Emotion have great control in the short game department?

piligrim wrote: what happened to first post?

Thanks for caring. I think I did something with the formatting. I'll fix it now.

Toprank wrote: piligrim wrote: what happened to first post? Thanks for caring. I think I did something with the formatting. I'll fix it now.

thank you for fixing :)

Toprank wrote: Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 jpen Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+    Darker 7A 2P Carbon Darker Arly-Carbon Darker Esteem Darker BX-700 a.k.a. Center Carbon Dawei GTS

slevin wrote: tuco wrote: However, hinoki does have its drawbacks.  It's bouncy and thereby control suffers especially in the short game department. So, which Hinoki Carbon blades, besides the Joola Rossi Emotion have great control in the short game department?

Maybe we could add a few other "hinoki-carbon" blades because they play similar but have spruce outer plies. I am thinking of: