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    Posted: 10/04/2013 at 11:09am
I wonder how long before we get a composite blade with graphene layers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/tech/innovation/graphene-quest-for-first-ever-2d-material/index.html

Very strong, light and flexible, graphene seems to be the dream material to enlarge the sweet spot, adding speed while keeping flex up and weight down. It actually is the dream material for A LOT of applications.

It can also be so thin the 15% maximum overall thickness of non wood material in the blade will allow blade makers to use it as much as they want with as many (+1) thinner wood plies all sandwiching it without worrying about total blade weight following its add-on.

Even Janus' videos will find safe storage:
http://machineslikeus.com/news/graphene-based-discs-ensure-safe-storage Tongue


It's been talked about on the forum before:
mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60805
mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57440



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I've got an even better (and/or more controversial suggestion) - let's make new balls from graphene :-) At least they'd be very high-tech ...
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My last racket was Youtek Graphene. Unfortunately, it has shared holes so breaks up easily in their vicinity.
 
 
 
 
So I prefer Innegra. It has very interesting kinetic properties.
 
 
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Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

I've got an even better (and/or more controversial suggestion) - let's make new balls from graphene :-) At least they'd be very high-tech ...
ok you want to go there? how about including it somewhere in the sponge? in the topsheet? in between the 2? LOL
I am sure some people have thought about it before.

About your graphene ball: I wonder if it could be built around a mold only to heat the whole just enough to melt the molding material and let it leak through that temperature still resisting graphene.

I read:
"The thermal stability of graphene is extremely high, its melting temperature is possibly the highest in nature."

You are maybe onto something revolutionary and it might be the key to the new ball mess. Clap


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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

My last racket was Youtek Graphene. Unfortunately, it has shared holes so breaks up easily in their vicinity.
 
So I prefer Inegra. It has very interesting kinetic properties.

Did you pull too hard when you knotted off the string?
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I can possibly pull no more than 30 pounds with syn and multi, much less with poly (now I've got a starting clamp). This particular racket is just one of the many illustration I have collected of misfortuned Heads. Mine was strung by Head stringers for free.
 
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

ok you want to go there? how about including it somewhere in the sponge? in the topsheet? in between the 2? LOL
I am sure some people have thought about it before.



Wouldn't be legal.  Covering can only be rubber, sponge rubber, and adhesive.  Rubber is defined by its ability to stretch and restore its original shape.  Graphene only stretches 20% (and I'm not sure if that even applies reasonably to how it might be integrated with rubber compounds) and would not fit the definition
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The 85% wood rule is really holding back blade technology. Imagine how thin and fast a blade could be made if it was 100% composite.

Just imagine how thick tennis frames would have to be if they were required to use 85% wood?
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Originally posted by sweetstrike sweetstrike wrote:

The 85% wood rule is really holding back blade technology. Imagine how thin and fast a blade could be made if it was 100% composite.

Just imagine how thick tennis frames would have to be if they were required to use 85% wood?
graphene can be so thin and light a lot of it could be integrated in a blade in many layers without hitting the 15% maximum thickness. Actually unlike actual carbon plies, total thickness and weight of the graphene plies would probably not be a factor when the 2 figures reach a point where the blade becomes ridiculously stiff and uncontrollably fast. That would give so much room to blade makers to use kinds of wood that today are not appropriate for their goals; a faster and flexier Matsushita Pro Special that would weigh under 85 grams for example. The number of possibilities jump up so high suddenly.


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Strange they forgot to discuss TT stuff
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Strange they forgot to discuss TT stuff
TT uses are insignificant compared to graphene being used to make capacitors or other electronic devices.

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Originally posted by tt4me tt4me wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Strange they forgot to discuss TT stuff
TT uses are insignificant compared to graphene being used to make capacitors or other electronic devices.



Maybe, except this is a TT forum.
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Iam getting slowly used to graphene being used pretty much anywhere but table tennis? Thats just awesome. :) On the other hand why not. I have already seen some sport equipment with graphene. For example skis. Graphene is really versatile material. For example check this blog about graphene.
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butterfly must be doing extensive research to make their blades more expensive.

player :hey its 600$ a blade
butterfly: its made of an advanced material ,buy it
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Did anyone else notice that something on this page launches a swf file to download? (0N-LiWRA7RQ.swf - which prompts a warning message) - 


nm - it's imago's image


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