Shoes: BTY or Mizuno?

Asics Gel-rocket shoes was recommended in this forum in previous posts.

It is grippy, and will protect your knees, but it is bit heavier than
a real TT shoes. My comments are based on rocket 4 and 5, in which 5 is
slightly heavier than 4 but don't know version 6 (guess similar).

BRS wrote: I wear ASICS Gel Rocket 6 and they are plenty grippy.  They have much more cushioning than a regular TT shoe, but weight goes with that.  I play mostly on tile over concrete, so I need the cushioning.  They also last a long time but take a while to break in.  I have been told that ASICS makes the BTY Energy Force 12 or whatever, so it has the same Gel-type cushioning in a lower-profile shoe.  If I have an extra $144 USD maybe I will try a pair.  The Gel Rocket 6s are $54 on many websites.

i'm curious of the weight of pair of asics rocket 6???
For comparison my mizuno wave medal in 42.5 (9.5) weights 15.6 oz.

Asics Gel Rocket are my favourites. 

Yeah, as the OP of this thread, I ended up purchasing a pair of asics volleyball shoes. Quite comfortable actually because of the cushioning.

liulin04 wrote: Yeah, as the OP of this thread, I ended up purchasing a pair of asics volleyball shoes. Quite comfortable actually because of the cushioning.

MODEL?????

skip3119 wrote: Stavros wrote: Asics Gel Rocket are my favourites.  After a 3 month period with Mizuno Wave Drive I returned to Asics and my legs thank me every day. =============================== Thanks. Just ordered a pair of ASICS Men's GEL-Rocket 6 Volleyball Shoes. Grippy is more important to me.

Edited by skip3119 - 11/20/2013 at 9:42pm

I’ve started playing tabletennis 6.5 years ago and used my old basket shoes the first year. They were heavy, much too high at the ankles for table tennis.

I then switched over to the Butterfly Energy Forde 3 top model (cost 115€). They are ultra light and provide a lot of grip but frankly I bought other shoes after a couple of years because they were not firm enough. Especially with my past in playing basketball, I was not getting enough support at my ankles. I was always afraid to twist my ankles. That eventually happened. I must say, I did not wear them out after 2.5 years. Not on the inside, not on the outside. The sole itself is an Asics light brown sole with gel.

I then switched to Ascics Gel Blade 4 which is I think a shoe also used for handball. These have been my shoes until now (3 years) now and the inner edges of the shoe soles have worn out . I could still use them but I loose grip sometimes (probably the way I push off sometimes, my legs are quite laterally placed so a lot of pressure on the inner sides/edges of the soles). The soles itself give quite a lot of grip but not the kind of grip you get from really sticky soles. I tested several tabletennis shoes in a store where they have polished concrete as floor. I tested a pair of new Asics blade 5 and I tested a pair of Yonex shoes. The yonex shoes did not slide at any attempt to put a lot of sideward pressure. The Asics however, were not as grippy and tended to slide a little bit which disappointed me at first. I almost bought the Yonex but started to wonder if tabletennis really requires that amount of grip if you have to move a lot from side to side. Yonex isn’t a tabletennis brand after all, it’s for badminton. They are more comfortable because badminton means more jumping so more shocks have to be absorbed. They might also be slightly too high at the ankles but far from being really too high.

Mizuno I have never tried them but the reviews on the internet look promising….

It will also depend on what floor you play on. If you play competition and or tournaments, the floor will always be different. Some floors already have so much grip that any shoe will be sufficient. Others are more slippy so you can’t really predict.

In my club, it’s a wooden floor with medium grip. A little bit of dust is enough to make it somewhat more slippery so good grip is quite important for me.

So I still have not decided...

asics upcort at racuetballwearhouse.com 

pgpg wrote: apex600 wrote: I’ve started playing tabletennis 6.5 years ago and used my old basket shoes the first year. They were heavy, much too high at the ankles for table tennis. I then switched over to the Butterfly Energy Forde 3 top model (cost 115€). They are ultra light and provide a lot of grip but frankly I bought other shoes after a couple of years because they were not firm enough. Especially with my past in playing basketball, I was not getting enough support at my ankles. I was always afraid to twist my ankles. That eventually happened. I must say, I did not wear them out after 2.5 years. Not on the inside, not on the outside. The sole itself is an Asics light brown sole with gel. I then switched to Ascics Gel Blade 4 which is I think a shoe also used for handball. These have been my shoes until now (3 years) now and the inner edges of the shoe soles have worn out . I could still use them but I loose grip sometimes (probably the way I push off sometimes, my legs are quite laterally placed so a lot of pressure on the inner sides/edges of the soles). The soles itself give quite a lot of grip but not the kind of grip you get from really sticky soles. I tested several tabletennis shoes in a store where they have polished concrete as floor. I tested a pair of new Asics blade 5 and I tested a pair of Yonex shoes. The yonex shoes did not slide at any attempt to put a lot of sideward pressure. The Asics however, were not as grippy and tended to slide a little bit which disappointed me at first. I almost bought the Yonex but started to wonder if tabletennis really requires that amount of grip if you have to move a lot from side to side. Yonex isn’t a tabletennis brand after all, it’s for badminton. They are more comfortable because badminton means more jumping so more shocks have to be absorbed. They might also be slightly too high at the ankles but far from being really too high. Mizuno I have never tried them but the reviews on the internet look promising…. It will also depend on what floor you play on. If you play competition and or tournaments, the floor will always be different. Some floors already have so much grip that any shoe will be sufficient. Others are more slippy so you can’t really predict. In my club, it’s a wooden floor with medium grip. A little bit of dust is enough to make it somewhat more slippery so good grip is quite important for me. So I still have not decided... If I am not mistaken - Bty shoes are made by Asics to begin with. TT companies like Bty, Joola, Tibhar etc. know very little about shoe making, so they have someone else produce them with their logo.

don't agree. I have both and butterfly is a different shoe. ok asics probably made it completely for butterfly. but thats about where it ends. the damping if the sole is the same. all the rest is different. cushioning, weight, fabric, shape of the sole, type of rubber used etc etc...

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apex600 wrote: I notice that the shoes with natural rubber soles provide the most grip generally.im leaning toward the wave medal. it looks so much like the gel blade shape and has the natural rubber sole

Edited by Egghead - 12/21/2016 at 2:56pm

Mizunos last forever, i have 3 year old mizuno court shoes that i have used quite roughly for squash,badminton and table tennis, and minus the rubber sole, there is no wear/tear.

If you are above 40 years old , Asics Gel Rocket 8.