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liulin04
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Posted: 12/18/2013 at 12:30pm |
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Are there any reviews for Jun Mizutani? If not, I am suprised that not too many people gave this blade a chance. I played with this blade over the weekend and last night and have made a decision to adhere to the JM as my primary shakehand blade. Fatt was right, this blade is the best shakehand blade that I have ever played with.
My first prolonged session of coaching was with this blade, but equipped with Dinic Coppa X1 and Donic Traction (horrible rubber). With the Coppa X1, driving and blocking against forehand topspin were a breeze. I had more than 85 rallies to block forehand loops. So that right there says a lot about control. Speed is between Off - Off+. Blocks against the forehand loops were effortless, and the speed was good in not leaving the table. FH loops: the JM made it very easy to loop like driving. I had about 38 forehand loop rallies and every one of them were very easy to execute. Counter-loop: Also quite easy to perform compared to other carbon and ALC blades that I have used. With carbon blades, counter loops were quite linear, and not much throw on the loops even though thr speed is there. There just wasnt enough emphasis on spin. With my Viscaria it is the other way around for me. While spin is present, speed was lacking. With the JM however, everything felt right. Majority of the shots land, and I was able to assert more spin on the ball because of thr blade's softness. Backhand blocks - also easy to execute. Because the Traction was such a bad rubber, I used the Coppa for both sides of testing. Backhand blocks were fun and easy to execute as well. I hitted the ball to forehand and backhand in alternates, and my friend had a good time with the drill. I made the rubber switch to T05 and T64 last night. Although I had no one to practice with, I eas able to serve and loop from mid distance by dropping the ball with one hand. T05 to me feels like the more superior option than Coppa. Serving was a bit of a challenge since I am not too good with serving with shakehand. But majority of my underspin all bounced onthr table at least twice with the T05. I hope to do more follow up review with the Tenergy tonight on the JM. Thus blade definitely deaervrs more recognition. |
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piligrim
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expensive ... |
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liulin04
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There's one person selling the blade for $130 just now. Perhaps you can track him down |
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Ray
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For the price of just one JM I can buy all blades I would like to have.
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JimT
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Not to mention that I recall hearing same words ("best I have ever played with") from liulin a couple of times before...
Which doesn't mean it's not great for him... it just means that at that particular moment he really liked it. Then a month later he will really like another one. I know because I've been there and did the same thing a few times |
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LOOPMEISTER
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The Jun Mizutani is relatively expensive, but its also the finest crafted blade there is.
BUT, YES, I KNOW YOU DON'T WIN MATCHES BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE PRETTIEST BLADE! JM is an awsome blade, and part of my permanent collection. I used it for about 1.5 years as my main tourney blade, but as my style evolves (changes vs. gets better), I find it to be too fast right now. |
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liulin04
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Haha thr JM is by far the best ZLC blades I have played with. Amultart - too fast and thick. TB ZLC - too stiff. IF ZLC - too woody. Havent played with ZJK ZLC or SZLC. So JM is the clear winner from this group. ALC blades are ok. But I like BTY carbon blades more |
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t64t64t64
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+1 |
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709
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bryce_fx23
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Like You said MJ is rly nice blade I had a chance to play with 4 diferent Mizutanis and they played rly similar, You can feel the difference in quality of equipment. IMO like You reviewed MJ has more control than TB ZLC, Amultart, Gergely, PC. The soft outer ply give You and extra dwell time. I liked MJ with soft rubbers, blade is fast but IMO when You use soft rubbers You receive some balance of speed and control.
If some1 like to have a fast blade, and TBS/ Viscaria is not that they are looking for I can recommend a MJ blade as a more dwell and spin oriented blade. |
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piligrim
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you didn't tell me you want to play with all-wood blade? :) |
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t64t64t64
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IF someone is interested i have JM paired with t64 both sides-used for 5hrs
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Thomasson
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Flared, 88g and willing to trade for a hurricane long 3 perhaps? :D
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Blade: TB ALC
FH: Tenergy05 2.1 BH: Tenergy64 1.7 |
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guruzz
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I use now for over 2 years and I have tried many over the best tires were the baracuda the tin arc3 and now use the m2 the baracuda is the most reliable in the field but not so bad, the arc 3 excellent tin but without the booster vs not forward ...While with the m2 I found the right compromise certole tgy is tgy but too much money
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stiltt
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Valerikim gave away his mj after playing it 6 years. He says the zjk szlc is very similar to the mj with more control. With money, zjk szlc is the right choice for people who find the mj too wild on certain shots; with no money, the jre is the natural choice to get the same control lol. I do not like slow rubbers on a fast blade...i find that practice to be an heresy; a bit like having a fast bike and riding it with the brakes on...that's why for a given overall speed rating, the jre with faster rubbers is better than a mj with slowish ones. For the people who can't help it and want to play the mj no matter what (been there), palio blit'z 47.5 in 2.0 on both sides works great --> low to mediun high throw in looping and fantastic hitting! I have not tried the szlc. I shall not...I am 100% sure I would love it. . liulin please sell a few blades to get one and tell us about it :) |
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jt99sf
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The best rubber I found for the MJ is the Xiom OM Elite. It allows you to release the MJ beast but with control. Also it's a great weight unlike the Tenergy series.
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jatienza930
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vvk1
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With money, zjk szlc is the right choice for people who find the mj too wild on certain shots;
Bollocks. Even if you're Bill Gates or Susan Sarandon, you don't need any blade that costs $356.99 or £341.9 ... One of my regular practice partners started playing with a ZJK SZLC a month ago. We had several extended practice sessions since then (read 5 or 6 best of 5s in a row in one evening), and I had a couple of knocks with this blade (and it had different rubber combos at each session :-) - tuned DHS national hurricane, T05, Calibra Tour M, T05FX). Let me assure you there is nothing special about this blade aside from the price tag. Anything it does, can be done with a TB ALC or a Viscaria - if you're a diehard BTY fan. Sorry for the off-topic rant.
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silva7
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the reason i did not like this blade much is that it is quite a heavy blade. if i had one around 86g like my ZJK and TBS then the JM would be a viable blade for me.
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Jolan
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Something like this ? |
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Baal
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I actually prefer the Viscaria. So apparently does ZJK. |
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vvk1
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Me too :-) |
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stiltt
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Anyway after a bit of thinking I understand your perfect logic; we can do everything a Ferrari does with a honda nsx so buying a ferrari is bollocks; why would we drink chateau Lafite Rothschild when we can enjoy a very nice Argentinian Malbec? silly me! you got it right and I was blind. thank you thank you thank you |
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vvk1
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Take it easy, mate. The reason a Ferrari is considered so desirable are obvious (e.g. it accelerates so quickly, the engine makes this wonderful unique noise that makes Top Gear presenters drool, it is a chick magnet, etc). It is also not mass-produced, in fact, the number of manufactured cars are strictly limited, hence the high price. Similar logic applies to the expensive wine. Now, what is so special about BTY ZJK SZLC? Is it not mass-produced on the same factory as all the other BTY blades? Perhaps it is hand-assembled by double PHDs in composite materials/structural engineering instead of the regular workers at the factory and therefore possesses unique properties that magically improve players results? The only reason for its existence is BTY's greed and attempt to capitalize on ZJK's name. |
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stiltt
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Fair enough. The nsx is a legendary car anyway so my comparison was unfair as it really competes with most hard to tune high maintenance ferrari. What i was pointing at is the fact for people who do not care about the money zkj szlc is the best bet when they love the mj and want more control. That's solid. It feels super similar and has more control. My source is a 2300 (less now cause less practice) 2 wings looper who played the mj for 6 years...
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sweetstrike
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It looks like Cory Eider was using MJ at the US Nationals and Tim Wang beat him with a Viscaria.
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