Tenergy 80FX coming!?

T80fx was listed for the very first time this year (2013) in April. 2013 is almost gone and T80FX doesn`t appeared so far...

I don't really care if it's coming, because I am perfectly happy with 80 as is. But, I would assume that within six months it should be on the market. I may have to borrow someone's to see how I like it when it releases! 

Sure, looking forward to it...

AndySmith wrote: It's coming. I'd bet the farm on it appearing in early 2014.

Andy, don't forget to send me the deed to your farm. I am looking forward to spending my quiet retirement there ... BUT! if there is no table tennis club within 15 miles then forget about it.

AndySmith wrote: I'm still looking forward to it.

A serious question to everyone: why?

I can understand the market for T80 over T05: some need slightly softer for BH (or on FH for hard blades), slightly lower throw, slightly better control. Well, if T80 is still a bit too hard, fast, then we already have T05fx (which has lower throw, lower sensitivity to spin and better control than T05).

T-05fx is soft enough I assume. And i expect T05fx to be spinnier than T80fx. Not too many play with T05fx and think "I wish it was deader, slower and less spinny - I'd pay Tenergy money for it".

Now a question for the PhD in SRR (Soft Rubber Research): why ditch M3 for the Aurus Soft/ 1Q Sound on the JRE?

BTW: if you do a detailed comparison of all these soft rubbers (including FX-P, JP-03) in a new single thread, the mods should sticky it - shall be very useful for thousands of members here.

With all the variations of Tenergy's, what possible element of play could T80FX offer? Most rubbers already have an inherent range of playability and I see this as an attempt by BTY to get your money. I think T05FX is an amazing BH rubber for my skill/level so I will not play the fool and waste my money on a new Tenergy that does nothing to help my game.

If people are 100% happy with their setup, there is no need to change things, sure. Curiosity plays a part, of course. Being curious doesn't make someone a fool.

Personally, I enjoy T64-fx on the Rossi Emotion. It's linear, the right kind of softness and speed for me, great. It's not particularly threatening for the opposition, but OK. T05-fx I find harder to use on the JRE. It's fairly controlled over the table, but becomes wild on bigger strokes. The combination of rubber and blade do not suit me, even though T05-fx offers more dangerous shots when BH looping.

I've been very surprised with the difference between T05-fx and T64-fx. They are markedly different, in fact. I would like something in the middle of the two, for my setup. Based on my experience with the JRE, I think T80-fx could offer a best fit for my needs. I could be totally wrong, but I'm curious enough to give it a try. I'm not expecting anything revolutionary. Just a slight tweak on current stuff.

This may all be based on my blade choice. I wouldn't be shocked if other people can't feel much difference between 05-fx and 64-fx on their blades, making a middle option somewhat redundant.

who cares about T80 FX. I am holding my breath a new generation, born by the new ball. Maybe they will name in Planergy. 

slevin wrote: Now a question for the PhD in SRR (Soft Rubber Research): why ditch M3 for the Aurus Soft/ 1Q Sound on the JRE?

OT, so I won't go on too much. It was a very personal decision. M3 was my FH rubber for a while, and I was over the moon with it. Some of the shots I could make with that rubber were crazy. Huge arc, off the floor, in the corner kind of shots. Good for my ego.

However, I found that against better players, it became something of a liability. The high arc just resulted in too much height on the ball, allowing the opponent to smash. Some players didn't want to move and would attempt a block - they tended to miss, and I did well. The better players had decent footwork and a better read on the spin. I found it hard to vary my game with M3 - I became a bit one dimensional. All my hard loops had huge cartoon arcs. It took me a whole season to work out what was happening.

The current gen of tensors are really different to the last. 1Q Sound is my current FH rubber, and I'll probably be keeping that for next season. It keeps a lot of the loop quality of M3, but it's lower throw. It's less bouncy in the short game, less sensitive to spin, more linear, and smashes/blocks better. It plays well in every aspect of my game, rather than excelling in a few.

Aurus Soft is my default BH rubber, but I play better with T64-FX on the BH with the JRE, and my sig is out of date.

Edited by AndySmith - 03/19/2014 at 3:41pm

OMG "surpasses" Tenergy Series. Thanks Andy for the info.

I can see it now...Hyper spin and laser speed!    

T80 ist the most allround from the regular Tenergy rubbers. T80FX will be the most allround from FX sponge Tenergy rubbers. No reason to not release it. It will be perfect for T80 fans who want softer sponge and don't mind the loss of power. The T64FX fans who want more control and don't mind the loss of speed. The T05FX fans who want softer topsheet and don't mind the loss of spin.

The regular T80 is already too soft. I have a pretty new sheet that has a bad cut right in the middle, so I don't use it in the club, but I put it on yasaka gatien .. a blade with hard outer plies, not sure what they are.. and use it at work. It feels so damn soft on a hard blade. FX in that rubber is unthinkable to me. I don't know a single rubber where I prefer the soft sponge over the hard one.

They're saturating the market with the FX versions but refuse to bring out a 47.5 deg Tenergy

I respectfully disagree that T64FX is not a viable Tenergy rubber. BTY was seeking a wide range of traits within the Tenergy family that would cover a wide range of players. One size does not fit all.

It might have something to do with the way SpinArt has been received.  They may be reluctant to bring out another hard spring sponged rubber.  Or they could be holding them for the "New Plastic Ball" release of rubber we are all expecting. I agree with the posters who say Tenergy 80 is soft, expecially coming from the Bluefire M2 I have been using.