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I prefer JRE close to the table but XVPro away from the table. Other than that, both are good blades. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 at 8:49am |
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I agree. Vega Pro is faster and more powerful than JRE which has more control. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 at 7:30pm |
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Tom - To be honest I am not really experienced enough to be able to give an accurate appraisal of a blade. I am really just learning my way at the moment. Since I started though - I have definitely been amazed at how technical and involved the equipment choices and possibilities are. I really wasn't expecting so much variety of equipment and variety of equipment application theories - for example - If I try and research "what is the fastest blade" - it is almost impossible to get a clean cut answer [thick with springy wood outer wood/ thin light with quad carbon and hard outer/ single ply/ balsa carbon] Then If I try and develop an equipment strategy for the new poly ball - the information available is just so varied. I have good court speed and I really like playing close to the table hitting driving the ball early - So I had thought to try a faster blade [maybe Xiom V1 quad or Xiom Axelo] - So at the moment wont be shopping for a Vega Pro. Will just keep the Hayabusa Zxi going until the next decision. Cheers.
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Posted: 11/02/2014 at 9:01pm |
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I'm not a blade specialist or anything like that, but these Vega blades are excellent for the price - you can get them at tabletennis11 for about $110 each if you don't live in Europe. That the blades are not sanded are not a big deal as Xiom sends a "sander" that lets you do it in about 5 mins.
If the Vega Tour comes out, I'll be extremely tempted to get it. While Butterfly blades are usually better than Xiom, I have no real experience with ZLC blades though a clubmate has one. Anyone looking at a ZLC blade should give this one a good look first - I really find it hard to believe that the Innerforce ZLC is any better, though from what I have heard and seen, the Timo Boll ZLC is likely faster than the Vega Euro.
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Posted: 11/02/2014 at 9:53pm |
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I have replaced my Mizutani Zlc by the Vega Pro blade and I am really happy with it. It is slower, softer and more flexible. Same goes for Vega Euro compared to TB ZLC. The Vega series have much better feel and control than the zlc blades. They are a bit harder and more popowerful than ALC blades.
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Posted: 11/04/2014 at 11:37am |
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Just read Larry Hodges blog where he links to this club in VA. Anyway, they are selling the Vega Pro and Vega Tour blades for $50!
http://www.smashtt.com/ Fatt, I have an 80gr Vega Pro blade that I purchased on this forum. You can pm me if you'd like to try it.
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Posted: 11/04/2014 at 12:42pm |
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The price is too good to be true, I think they misquoted the price as it is exactly the same as the XIOM rubbers quoted just above on their website. If this turns out to be legit, I am going get one of the blades just for the hell of it. |
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I just got an email from them saying basically they don't have any inventory and aren't open yet and they refunded my money.
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The XVP I had tried was 80g too, so I guess that weight isn't an anomaly.
Not sure where these are manufactured, but the weight range is very high: TT11 had a 80g and a 94g in stock at that time! That implies that blade thickness would be a big variable. Anyways, the one I had, while it had excellent feeling, felt hollow and was a little too stiff for my taste (much stiffer than my current MJ). The 80g XVP was also less powerful than the 86g TB-ALC I had at that time (though it certainly felt like it could out-power a 80g TB-ALC). Very easy to spin with (though I feel that the MJ is spinnier). For the price, it is the best value blade out there. I wish I had a slightly heavier XVP at that time - I'd have never gotten rid of it.
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Slevin, I bought yours, so it was the same 80gr blade.
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Posted: 11/04/2014 at 4:09pm |
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I bought one at 92g in the packet according to TT11 but after unwrapping and sanding, it came to my perfect 87-88g and it is now my weapon of choice. My coach hates it when I praise equipment but that blade is a spin monster!
I have never used an MJ blade but I will never spend $200 on a blade either. Edited by NextLevel - 11/04/2014 at 4:11pm |
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Posted: 11/04/2014 at 4:13pm |
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Sounds like a great weight! When you say that you sanded it, do you mean just the handle or did you reduce the blade circumference (like ttping85 did)?
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Just the handle. I don't know how TT11 arrived at their weight, but the one thing I didn't like about the Vega Euro you sold me was the weight - made it easier to use the Big Dipper rubbers, but I hate changing blade weight because of the adjustments involved. I've been lucky to consistently get 87-88 g blades for a while now.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 at 6:00pm |
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I found one 82gr and sanded it down to 80gr by reducing the head size. The first one I got was 82gr. Most of the ones I found were between 80 and 85gr. |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 at 6:00am |
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copy from another topic:
I used to play JM zlc last season than switched to JM Szlc at the beginning of this season. Now I play with the Xiom Vega Pro. The difference is very clear. The Vega Pro is less accurate but much more forgiving. Result is that more of my shots land on the table especially in blocking and counter looping. Also its flexibility makes it easier to do slow spinny loops compared to JM Szlc.
Difference in results was immediate. My rating is about 2500 in France. With the JM Szlc on my 2nd team game I lost a player rated around 2300 and on my 3rd team game with JM zlc I lost a player rayed around 2450. On my 4th team game using the vega Pro I won against one player rated 2690, one 2570 and almost won against one 2550. |
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Has anyone tried xiom vega tour?
would love to get a review of it. |
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It hasn't been available... Until now! tt-japan has it for $99. |
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Posted: 12/06/2014 at 11:10am |
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Get me one in the 85 to 90g range and I will join in the order. Vega Tour....
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Did anyone tried the Tour yet?
By having a Hinoky outer ply, I am wondering how the Tour compares to Pro/Euro. Would it be faster or more control? What effect has the Hinoky ply?
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i wonder is both are head heavy ? i like my XIOM amadeus due to its almost zero head heavy , but i wonder does XVP orXVE does the same ?
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yes these blades are head heavy as they have quite thin handles and large head-size 158-152.
If you want a less head heavy blade but similar get a Stradivarius or Hayabusa ZXi.
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ttping: are you still playing with the Vega Pro? I finally got a Vega Euro and need a bit of feedback before my second session with it. Fantastic control - I teamed it up with MXP and Airoc M. Monstrous loop drive on power strokes and yet on lower strokes the drives seem to land a lot shorter than usual. Did you find this? Any comments on this seemingly opposite properties ( comments from anybody will be welcomed as well)?
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Hi, I've played extensively with both Vega Pro and Euro (in both ST and FL handles) and prefer EURO exclusively over Pro. The Euro is a very liner blade up till mid-power and the flex kicks in late. This means the short game is great and the counter-looping is also great. Being a koto ply it is also very stable in quick counter exchanges. The pro is not very linear and starts to flex/ speed up at mid-power. This means that opening topspins and counter loops are great but depth control in opening top-spins and pushes is not as great as euro. I tried the vega tour and IMHO it is the worst of the series and a very non-linear and weird blade. Medium fast on fast strokes and dead on slow strokes but lively in mid-power range. I tried all these blades with T05/T64 and H3/T64. I find that the H3/T64 + Euro is best and it plays like a Viscaria with a little more kick. |
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thanks, it would explain why it seems to lack offensive output on lesser strokes. I guess a little more effort is needed on these strokes. it would mean my input levels won't be able to be varied as greatly on offensive strokes. a small price to pay to play with a great blade.
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Can anyone compare these with any of the Radix, Avenger, or Hypertouch blades?
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I've toyed with both Vega Pro and Hypertouch, both having DHS H3 Neo on FH and Tibhar 5Q on BH, for a couple of practice sessions, including having a go at a robot feeding you heavy topspin or backspin.
Hypertouch is harder, slightly heavier, faster in both short game and attacking play, and ultimately more powerful but requires better technique, especially with the celluloid ball. When looping backspin, it was easiler to produce a higher arc with Vega Pro than Hypertouch. Vega Pro seems to vibrate a bit more than Hypertouch. Also, I've tried both celluloid and Tibhar poly bals, and preferred the Vega Pro setup for celluloid, and Hypertouch for plastic. Edited by vvk1 - 04/10/2015 at 11:25am |
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The Vega pro blade I received was in an upsettingly bad quality.
After numerous hours of searching for a better blade than my WSC in speed, power, control and dwell, I found the Hayabusa series to be the next candidate and then after numerous hours of researching and reading, I get the idea the Vega Blade series is the new generation of the Hayabusa series, so naturally I focused on getting one. I promised myself I'd will NEVER get a Chinese-made paddle due to sh!tty QC inconsistency. The Vega Series is Korea-made, so Korean QC > Chinese QC, I decided to buy one and not a Sweden-made Donic brand. My first impression was this blade is light and attractive. The box it came with was well made. Its all going down after this. After my first game, I noticed little hair line fabric threads showing up on the edges of the blade, knowing no better I ignored them. I cleaned the rubbers surface and put the paddle back into my case. After my 3 game, I noticed the the entire yellow zephylium threads came out both of the blade's edges. not much but around 1mm to 2mm. Trying to clip them was a HORROR made in hell, only to pull them out more. Right now the edges looks like acne on a teenager's face. WTF. Keep in minde I did not pull side tape nor did I purposely yanked them(who the hell would). Aside from the above horror, the surface was lacquer and that KILLED any adhesiveness on the rubbers using either speedglue, tear mender or rubber cement. As a last resort I had to sand the surfaces down for them to stick. Sucks. The handle will also give out very soon. The lighter part of the handle started to split out little splinters from the actual wood. Had I not pay CLOSE attention the splinters will come out of the handle very soon. WTF and sandpaper again! Forget what the description say about Xiom's THIL quality control. All in all, while the performance of the VP was better than WSC in the areas looked for and also more expensive, I would never ever recommend this product line to anyone at all. Korea-made QC is just as bad as China-made QC. Since I never stopped searching for the next blade I found another Donic candidate. Stay AWAY from Xiom Vega series. You might think its cool and new, but you will regret it like I do. |
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Im sorry to hear your experience ahsq. My vega pro is 91g ST. I found it to be super controlled on table compared to my zxi. Been using my zxi for a minute now. I still like my zxi more because of the added power :). Most people wont like it, rather wont be able to control it.its 'stiff in some dictionaries. Not mine.
I havent experienced None of the above issues with any xiom blade. What was the weight of your vega pro? Edit: Im actually looking for a second zxi to treade for my vega pro or sell it and buy a zxi. I got addicted to koto. Limba doesnt do for me. Edited by asifgunz - 06/25/2015 at 3:24pm |
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its 85g ST. I'd love to try the zxi if I have a chance. sounds like a great blade u got there.
Have you tried other brands?
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